JAV Gossips

[silent1one]

Dogfart is a satirical/parody site, that pokes fun at the IR culture, and they constantly get superstars to perform, don't compare them with f up facials or whatever(I assume you mean facefucking and such) hey it's not there fault that you can't differentiate, reality from fantasy, what about in regular movie culture, are guys that do r*** scenes actually r**ist? the only difference is one is simulated, and the other not. They get paid to do a job, and if they do it right they get to keep coming back, and if it was really a big issue Attackers wouldn't be a big studio. Of course there are girls that got coerced into it, that's a big issue and the thing the cops are focused on getting under control(not stopping penetration)



I mean if they consent to do it then what's so wrong with it? once coercion issues are under control, if you don't like it/don't want to do it, then don't do it

Not entirely just parodies. They're pretty much embracing this stereotype. Just like the ongoing racist Mexicans and Asians stereotypes in American porn, they're catering to the needs of a large group of viewers over there. Closet racist is still a huge thing just like it's rare to see an Asian pornstar in America because of the backlash from the viewers and what goes on inside.

Back to the topic, it's obvious Paying to enjoy r*** is consider fine and a lot of people enjoy watching it. It is wrong to r*** in real life, which is obvious. You got to wonder what kind of dark creative minds comes up with these grotesque r*** av and American porn. They can be way more extreme than real r***. It's even not normal for porn lover to enjoy watching let alone some that agree to film/direct them. All kind of freaks exist in the world. Most porn lover wouldnt dare to acknowledge they love genres like r***, lolis, hentai, etc. we spend years for people to start accepting LGBT, but there are more than those.

I can see why if they decide to film less r*** or drop it entirely before the Olympics. It does get a bad vibe because there are fear of what foreigners think about this and how it affect the minds of the viewers. Sometimes, normal positive guys can turn out to be total freaks like Jared the sandwich guy. I remember belle Knox talks about feminism and regret filming these "non-normal porn" before she disappear. People speculate she's acting strong to not break. Overall, people are curious why people film these degrading r*** and most assume they're losing it.

 

[silent1one]

Dogfart is a satirical/parody site, that pokes fun at the IR culture, and they constantly get superstars to perform, don't compare them with f up facials or whatever(I assume you mean facefucking and such) hey it's not there fault that you can't differentiate, reality from fantasy, what about in regular movie culture, are guys that do r*** scenes actually r**ist? the only difference is one is simulated, and the other not. They get paid to do a job, and if they do it right they get to keep coming back, and if it was really a big issue Attackers wouldn't be a big studio. Of course there are girls that got coerced into it, that's a big issue and the thing the cops are focused on getting under control(not stopping penetration)



I mean if they consent to do it then what's so wrong with it? once coercion issues are under control, if you don't like it/don't want to do it, then don't do it

It depends on the girl. There are a lot of reasons why they join, why they film, what they film, and if they have a choice to choose who or what to film. Some girls might feel violated after finishing filming/retire years later when she change her mindset especially if their family find out or they decide to start their own family after leaving the industry.
Some popular av idols are coerced, but they force themselves to enjoy it and use av as a stepping stone to higher fame. They can't complain in the end because of the money they receive. All you can say is av isn't as dark as people thinks nor is it as happy go lucky as the smile on idols faces. It's just a persona and they can be normal girls next door in private. I don't know about the bad influence of what people thinks about r*** porn. I remember some cops blackmail and r***ing a girl possessing drugs last year. There was another guy that stalks and stab an idol because they're becoming obsessive. It can either influence people to take action or limit people committing r***s. All kind of people exist and we don't know if they're secret freaks or not. It's an odd line between fantasy/job and real crime. It's odd to proudly say I make a living fking raping white pssies and I enjoy it, I filmed a lot of scenes where I get gang r***ing, or I loved watching certain race of girls getting degraded and r***ing by a group of thugs. Of course, there are a lot of opinions between different idols, male actors, fans/viewers, and the general public. Some vanilla scene might be a trigger to someone especially when some idol from some generic normal scene turns out to be a coerced victim.

 

[paparoach408]

Not entirely just parodies. They're pretty much embracing this stereotype. Just like the ongoing racist Mexicans and Asians stereotypes in American porn, they're catering to the needs of a large group of viewers over there. Closet racist is still a huge thing just like it's rare to see an Asian pornstar in America because of the backlash from the viewers and what goes on inside.

Back to the topic, it's obvious Paying to enjoy r*** is consider fine and a lot of people enjoy watching it. It is wrong to r*** in real life, which is obvious. You got to wonder what kind of dark creative minds comes up with these grotesque r*** av and American porn. They can be way more extreme than real r***. All kind of freaks exist in the world. Most porn lover wouldnt dare to acknowledge they love genres like r***, lolis, hentai, etc.

I can see why if they decide to film less r*** or drop it entirely before the Olympics. It does get a bad vibe because there are fear of what foreigners think about this and how it affect the minds of the viewers. Sometimes, normal positive guys can turn out to be total freaks like Jared the sandwich guy. I remember belle Knox talks about feminism and regret filming these "non-normal porn" before she disappear. People speculate she's acting strong to not break. Overall, people are curious why people film these degrading r*** and most assume they're losing it.

that's the point, they embrace it, the serious IR is blacked/darkx the fun satirical/parody ir is dogfart

Asa Akira is one of the biggest stars and has been for a decade, Morgan Lee kills it, Ava Devine has been one of the nastiest popular girls for a long time, Kaylani Lei is still going, Dana Vespoli, London Keys all very popular current asian pornstars.
They won't because it would kill a large portion of the JAV industry, and nobody is trying to stop them, as long as everything is legal, if foreigners are going to care about anything it'll be the loli issues, not the jav r*** genre, because the loli stuff is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more mainstream.

 

[paparoach408]

It's just a persona and they can be normal girls next door in private. I don't know about the bad influence of what people thinks about r*** porn. I remember some cops blackmail and r***ing a girl possessing drugs last year. There was another guy that stalks and stab an idol because they're becoming obsessive. It can either influence people to take action or limit people committing r***s. All kind of people exist and we don't know if they're secret freaks or not. It's an odd line between fantasy/job and real crime. It's odd to proudly say I make a living fking raping white pssies and I enjoy it, I filmed a lot of scenes where I get gang r***ing, or I loved watching certain race of girls getting degraded and r***ing by a group of thugs. Of course, there are a lot of opinions between different idols, male actors, fans/viewers, and the general public. Some vanilla scene might be a trigger to someone especially when some idol from some generic normal scene turns out to be a coerced victim.

I can probably assure you that porn did not influence that, and that's a common thing that happens in all portions of the world with cops using power to do whatever they want(but i'm not getting into that), and the idol stabbing is a common issue with any celebrity, people get obsessed and some do dumb things, and it's not because of porn.

No it's not an odd line, it's a job, for a fantasy setting that all parties agreed to do, if there was no agreement, and they just did whatever then that is an issue

Are you pointing out Dogfart? they don't do r*** themes at all.

Then don't watch the scene, delete it if you know it's going to trigger you avoid it, even if you learn afterwards that they where coerced delete the scene and never look at it again.

 

[ding73ding]

Please keep to topic. If you want to debate social and racial issues, take it to another thread.

 

[jwlim80]

Some comments on their job by 3 of the top performers :-

Kojima Minami :-


https://twitter.com/kojima373/status/955855047388098561

"A lot of girls is joining the AV trade lately. Everybody so enthusiastic while on the job. They are confident about the job that both friends and family are open about it. Those who are saying "AV is the pits" are so out of touch with the time."

Tia :-

https://twitter.com/24hTia1/status/962673995219795971

"I've gone to the ministry of labor and they told me that being an AV actress is not a considered as a laborer. It feel that I'm in a grey area. Can't even get a credit card and a bank loan as an AV actress. This society is so narrow minded."

Riku Minato :-


https://twitter.com/riku_minato/status/962995097603260417

"Look, I've legally employed, earning a proper wage and done my duty as a citizen by paying the annual income tax. Isn't it a bit harsh telling me that I'm a disgrace to the Japanese and my job isn't fit to be mentioned ? Be gentle there, will you ?"

 

[silent1one]

Some comments on their job by 3 of the top performers :-

Kojima Minami :-
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https://twitter.com/kojima373/status/955855047388098561

"A lot of girls is joining the AV trade lately. Everybody so enthusiastic while on the job. They are confident about the job that both friends and family are open about it. Those who are saying "AV is the pits" are so out of touch with the time."

Tia :-
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https://twitter.com/24hTia1/status/962673995219795971

"I've gone to the ministry of labor and they told me that being an AV actress is not a considered as a laborer. It feel that I'm in a grey area. Can't even get a credit card and a bank loan as an AV actress. This society is so narrow minded."

Riku Minato :-

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https://twitter.com/riku_minato/status/962995097603260417

"Look, I've legally employed, earning a proper wage and done my duty as a citizen by paying the annual income tax. Isn't it a bit harsh telling me that I'm a disgrace to the Japanese and my job isn't fit to be mentioned ? Be gentle there, will you ?"

There are sympathizer, but they can't really do anything. Riley Reid tweeted about a popular figure compares pornstars to real criminals like child molestors. Pretty much the image of av/porn is pretty bad in popular culture mindset and sometimes worst than diseased invested hookers that damage people's minds that disgrace their family by selling easy sex to anyone. I don't know how many have their family and friends supports or acceptance, but porn in general isn't a lifetime job and is a pit hole to those that can't ignore public harassment. certain laws or government agencies usually feel indifferent about them or pressure to limit them and subsequentially degrade them in a certain way. it's worst than youtubers complaining about youtube isnt a real job and they have a hard time proving their credits too. It's still an odd subject of gossip even if you make a living in porn and help out your family financially or decide to have kids in the future. The disgusting eyes and comments behind your back are not going to entirely fade unless you keep sticking within your inner circle of people. A lot of pornstar and av idols also talked about getting disown or distance from their family and it took a long time for them so sort of accept it.

 

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[paparoach408]

Speaking of TIA I read rumors of her going to america to shoot? I think she could make decent money in the USA. Since her av releases have slowed to nothing. I know she has another job but she mentioned going to america I presume to shoot on her stream a few times.

probably to just do what Hitomi does, nude photo shoots and that's it. No way she'd make it as a pornstar over there, and very unlikely to get the Hitomi level of success with photo shoots, but that's the most realistic option

 

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[silent1one]

depends on her management I guess. Tia has lived in florida. Marica Hase does okay and her english is not good compared to TIa

Marcia is like ai uehara with the hardcore black scenes. Idk if tia will be in to that in order to make a name in the us market. Fake boob is fine, but idk about the Barbie looking face would be appealing to western fan base. There's hitomi and okita with being big eyes and mixed respectively. There are Marcia with the very Asian features like Asa Akira. Tia isn't young anymore, so she can't start off soft like the debuts, so it depends if she's in to rougher sex. She done scenes with black for s1, but they're vanilla compares to what ai uehara done for dandy with LA actors.

 

[paparoach408]

depends on her management I guess. Tia has lived in florida. Marica Hase does okay and her english is not good compared to TIa

Marica Hase does a lot of dirty things(Anal, dp, and such), and is only doing ok, a vanilla Tia probably won't do much, especially with what she'd probably demand financially, Tia would barerly survive over here. Asa Akira set the bar for asians over here, you have to be at least a quarter of that for a chance

 

[silent1one]

She has a kid to raise, pets to feed, and rent to pay. Her job is pretty much drinking and conversing at red dragon, so unless the pay is really good for her to move back to the U.S. I don't see her do it. She mentioned about the Aussie movie and her trip to china. I think she wants to be like sora Aoi, anri okita, or rola misaki and be like them able to make money by learning to speak Chinese and hope to do events and gaming & gambling commercials without getting back in to av. I heard she's one of those small models that film some minor commercials prior to av, but I don't think her name is as big as them. Yui hatano is getting old and minorly bloated from pumping so much titles and probably drinking, but she got the lin chi long look alike title to get her jobs even after she retire. Sora Aoi and Maria Ozawa is like the poster idol for the av industry. Kudos to tia for keeping fit from her diet and squatting.

 

[silent1one]

Not a fan of fake liquids, but akiho can still act and express finely to be able to stay in the biz for 15 years and twice as long as sora and mihiro. She's seem to eat very healthy like jessica so they're pretty fit. . btw sakura miura looks cute and has a voluptious figure in a petite body, but she need work on being more expressive and act better. she looks like an introvert or socially awkward giro in real life that's still afraid for displaying emotion or afraid of cameras.http://www.playno1.com/article-26142-1.html#.WoOEl5G9KSM
Maria Ozawa got a new channel vlogging about her trip back in Japan for the winter in Hokkaido. Maybe she should meet up with tia or if she decides to revisit red dragon like rio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=142s&v=ROcHznHYzDY

 

[Supmop]

I don't think many migration from JAV to american porn will happen (at least in the near future), Marica Hase, already did it, and few other might follow her step, but don't expect big names

 

[paparoach408]

I don't think many migration from JAV to american porn will happen (at least in the near future), Marica Hase, already did it, and few other might follow her step, but don't expect big names

yup, Ayumu Kase also also went over there last year and did videos for quite a few companies before fading, but Marica has been the only successful one, and that's because she does everything. Hitomi is probably the only one that could make a successful transition because she already built a large following in the us, but I doubt she'd risk her comfy income for the risk of america

 

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[G0kkunG0uki]

These two have came to america and seem to be shooting
Yukina Kaname https://twitter.com/yukinausa
Wakaba Onoue / Hikaru Wonderland https://twitter.com/hikaru_wndrlnd

how did u know about this?

 

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[Supmop]

yup, Ayumu Kase also also went over there last year and did videos for quite a few companies before fading, but Marica has been the only successful one, and that's because she does everything. Hitomi is probably the only one that could make a successful transition because she already built a large following in the us, but I doubt she'd risk her comfy income for the risk of america

Marica Hase is suitable for american porn audience, while many other JAV idols are not

and the second main reason is income, moving to america doesn't guarantee they will get better life there

These two have came to america and seem to be shooting
Yukina Kaname https://twitter.com/yukinausa
Wakaba Onoue / Hikaru Wonderland https://twitter.com/hikaru_wndrlnd

I'm curious Wakaba Onoue working in US for japanese or american company ?