JAV Gossips

[paparoach408]

https://mainichi.jp/articles/20180217/k00/00m/040/088000c


Manichi got a template of the "unified contract" that is to roll out in April and they pointed out some of the more interesting clauses.
1}"The actress can refuse the job without giving explicit reasons"
2) "No compensation is required from the actress if she turn down the shooting or demand her works to be withdrawn after the shooting"
3)"Percentage of the production fee that is given to the actress as wage to be stated"
4) "Actress to provide basis supporting clause #3

I can't read japanese but I will just say, the jav industry is not unified, so this "contract", I really doubt Hokuto or SOD would let the actresses have more power over them, so i doubt they'll join in on this, and if the top dogs don't join in then it really won't do much

 

[jwlim80]

I can't read japanese but I will just say, the jav industry is not unified, so this "contract", I really doubt Hokuto or SOD would let the actresses have more power over them, so i doubt they'll join in on this, and if the top dogs don't join in then it really won't do much

The report stated that 25 production house had already joined their new umbrella group who goes by the acronym of JPG since it's establishment last April.

In any case, I expected loopholes to be found and expolited.

 

[paparoach408]

The report stated that 25 production house had already joined their new umbrella group who goes by the acronym of JPG since it's establishment last April.

In any case, I expected loopholes to be found and expolited.

which 25? there are a lot of jav companies out there, and who needs loopholes when it's not really mandatory to join

 

[jwlim80]

which 25? there are a lot of jav companies out there, and who needs loopholes when it's not really mandatory to join

The report didn't go into specifics. Sure, there might be studios who will not join JPG. But would you work for a company that offer better rights and privileges with a lower pay over one that offers higher wage but is known to be very exploitative ?

 

[paparoach408]

The report didn't go into specifics. Sure, there might be studios who will not join JPG. But would you work for a company that offer better rights and privileges with a lower pay over one that offers higher wage but is known to be very exploitative ?

it depends, if Hokuto and SOD(who are 70% of the industry) aren't in it well they control most of the well paying jobs, you can go make less money doing probably more work, or deal with a little explotitiveness but make waaay more money. Those to companies will always find girls willing to work, and pay them good money, i'm just saying this contract stuff doesn't work without them.Also, As i've been saying this hypothetical contract gives the girls way too much power, and people will all the power don't like giving up most of there power So I don't think they'd join

 

[ding73ding]

http://www.playno1.com/article-26095-1.html

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be6G8d0nAs_/?taken-by=ayami_syunnka_honmono

Shunka Ayami posted her thoughts on the "Compelled to shoot AV" mess. It's not too easy to full understand every words but the general idea is perfectly clear: her own personal experience in AV has nothing in common with those who accuse the industry of coercion. Her first sentence was kinda gingerly doubting the words of the victims, then she wrote several sentences that said the same thing in multiple ways: that her whole AV career she herself decides everything, she was in control the whole time. It's not the first time Shunka Ayami had stated support for the agencies.

Earlier AIKA supposedly post comments to generally the same effect but in even stronger words. I don't think either Shunka or AIKA are directly calling the accusers/victims liars, but they are saying "I was never coerced, and I have not seen any girls been coerced". Shunka's post seems to imply what she's thinking. "Well I have a robust personality and can deal with life. Those girls who accuse industry of coercion, perhaps they have that kind of weak personality that is fated to be abused and exploited by bad people"

Quite a lot seem to be dynamic with Shunka nowadays. After years of shooting vanilla vids as Prestige's top idol, she recently released a S&M vid in which she's all tied up and have her anus probed with dildo and multiple sex toys. That's relatively intense even for the average idol but especially unusual for the top idol for a major studio. I wonder if having played a sub for the first time especially made her want to declared to the world she's not a victim. Another thing might be on her mind when she made that post, a few days later, she officially declare she's "graduating" from Prestige, after her late March vid.

 

[ding73ding]

it depends, if Hokuto and SOD(who are 70% of the industry) aren't in it well they control most of the well paying jobs, you can go make less money doing probably more work, or deal with a little explotitiveness but make waaay more money. Those to companies will always find girls willing to work, and pay them good money, i'm just saying this contract stuff doesn't work without them.Also, As i've been saying this hypothetical contract gives the girls way too much power, and people will all the power don't like giving up most of there power So I don't think they'd join

Mainichi isn't some bullshit rag. If they made such a report on their print edition, a lot of idols and prospects will have the expectation that it IS the industry standard practice. You can't have 2 big companies say "we own 70% of the business, we are exceptions to the rule" when there's the news that "25 studios already signed on to XXX".

But the contract as printed in the article is clearly very one-sided. The industry may go out of business if majority of performers have such one-sided contract in their hands. So I can think up at least 3 different scenarios how it could develop... (1) since the performer has the power to call off a release even after the studio invested real money on production, the industry can shift the performer's income to kick in only after a vid has generated income. I.e. old ways: industry pays performed an amount, and invest in production and finally pocket the profit or swallow the loss. New ways: performer gets almost nothing up front, she makes the vid, after industry make profit from the sales, she gets a share of the profit. This may be the more reasonable way. Performer still have the control, but she gets no pay if she pulls the plug.
(2) industry work with yakuza to "discourage" performers who call off releases or withdraw her past vids without reasonable cause.
(3) industry and performers signs some side contract that weakens the pro-performer clauses of the standard contract.

 

[paparoach408]

Mainichi isn't some bullshit rag. If they made such a report on their print edition, a lot of idols and prospects will have the expectation that it IS the industry standard practice. You can't have 2 big companies say "we own 70% of the business, we are exceptions to the rule" when there's the news that "25 studios already signed on to XXX".

But the contract as printed in the article is clearly very one-sided. The industry may go out of business if majority of performers have such one-sided contract in their hands. So I can think up at least 3 different scenarios how it could develop... (1) since the performer has the power to call off a release even after the studio invested real money on production, the industry can shift the performer's income to kick in only after a vid has generated income. I.e. old ways: industry pays performed an amount, and invest in production and finally pocket the profit or swallow the loss. New ways: performer gets almost nothing up front, she makes the vid, after industry make profit from the sales, she gets a share of the profit. This may be the more reasonable way. Performer still have the control, but she gets no pay if she pulls the plug.
(2) industry work with yakuza to "discourage" performers who call off releases or withdraw her past vids without reasonable cause.
(3) industry and performers signs some side contract that weakens the pro-performer clauses of the standard contract.

it's not really even a rule, it's more of a suggestion like that whole "5 year rule", unless they are put into law then I see a lot of the bigger companies not going through with them. But yeah this gives the girls all the power, and regardless of what's right or wrong people at the top just won't let what they've had go away.
second thing, that's probably the best way to go about it if the companies follow it

 

[V1ight0p0rn0wanT]

Turns out anri okita is married from her instagram and expecting a baby. Another is taken and she still looks fine after 30. I guess there's more years before she hit break her peak and prime. I guess the rumors about ai uehara is true as well too.

What rumours are there about Uehara Ai? That she's pregnant?

 

[silent1one]

What rumours are there about Uehara Ai? That she's pregnant?

Married

 

[Supmop]

http://www.playno1.com/article-26095-1.html

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be6G8d0nAs_/?taken-by=ayami_syunnka_honmono

Shunka Ayami posted her thoughts on the "Compelled to shoot AV" mess. It's not too easy to full understand every words but the general idea is perfectly clear: her own personal experience in AV has nothing in common with those who accuse the industry of coercion. Her first sentence was kinda gingerly doubting the words of the victims, then she wrote several sentences that said the same thing in multiple ways: that her whole AV career she herself decides everything, she was in control the whole time. It's not the first time Shunka Ayami had stated support for the agencies.

Earlier AIKA supposedly post comments to generally the same effect but in even stronger words. I don't think either Shunka or AIKA are directly calling the accusers/victims liars, but they are saying "I was never coerced, and I have not seen any girls been coerced". Shunka's post seems to imply what she's thinking. "Well I have a robust personality and can deal with life. Those girls who accuse industry of coercion, perhaps they have that kind of weak personality that is fated to be abused and exploited by bad people"

Quite a lot seem to be dynamic with Shunka nowadays. After years of shooting vanilla vids as Prestige's top idol, she recently released a S&M vid in which she's all tied up and have her anus probed with dildo and multiple sex toys. That's relatively intense even for the average idol but especially unusual for the top idol for a major studio. I wonder if having played a sub for the first time especially made her want to declared to the world she's not a victim. Another thing might be on her mind when she made that post, a few days later, she officially declare she's "graduating" from Prestige, after her late March vid.

should look at the fact that many of them return from retirement automatically indicate that they are happy to work in AV, but those delusional retards will keep refuse this fact, because they believe AV industry are under Yakuza's controll and all the girls are forced to work there

 

[fwildly]

Marica Hase is suitable for american porn audience, while many other JAV idols are not

and the second main reason is income, moving to america doesn't guarantee they will get better life there

I remember reading somewhere that she says she actually gets paid less in the US than in Japan, plus she has to do her own make-up.

But she's still there cos she thinks JAV is too tame or something like that.

 

[capsulecor]

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[paparoach408]

oops(wrong place)

 

[Inertia]

fwildly: agreed regarding Marica. I'm sure the pay is way less. Most likely she does it because she loves being in USA and loves doing adult video.

 

[ball7]

Recenty, we have been discussing Tia and her open-mouthedness, but has she revealved anything truy shocking.
She has talked a litte about Ebisu Muscat and how most of it is faked, which gives itself as it is a tv show. But at the same time, she has claimed most of the friendships aren't real. Now honesty, I doubt this - since many of the stars hangs out and interacts with each other offscreen - fx. Ichikawa/Iori, Marina/Yui and Asuka/Yui. I expect Tia might never have fitted in.

 

[jwlim80]

Another girl who got into a contractual dispute over her final wage after the deduction from her agency :-



She so pissed off that she states she longer trust anyone. Anyway her twitter account had been offline since noon yesterday :-

https://mobile.twitter.com/misaki_nanami_1

 

[Supmop]

Yakuza clearly has ties and nothing is black and white as you claim. Using slurs and name calling makes this thread not worth reading.

who said I'm claim black and white ?? carry on blah blah and so on

 

[Supmop]

I remember reading somewhere that she says she actually gets paid less in the US than in Japan, plus she has to do her own make-up.

But she's still there cos she thinks JAV is too tame or something like that.

yes, there is a reason why most AV idols don't want to move to US, few of them are like Marika Hase, most of them won't get out from their comfort zone

I have wish top AV idols will do international works together with top western porn stars ... but I think will not happen in the near future

 

[alphaqsilly]

Did Shina Sora leave Eririka Katagiri for Aya Miyazaki? I see them alot together on social media. Are they just friends or are they now the big lesbian couple in JAV like Shina and Eririka use to be?