JAV Gossips

[jwlim80]

If anything, it just proves that those who had made a successful career out of porn might not even look upon fondly upon their time in the industry.

So the likes of Sora Aoi trying to erase their past is not out of the question. I expect other big names to follow.

 

[Inertia]

jwlim80: where does it say Mihiro's content is being removed specifically for this reason? From what I recall reading, the '5 year rule' is something that may be added to agency contracts going forward.

 

[jwlim80]

jwlim80: where does it say Mihiro's content is being removed specifically for this reason? From what I recall reading, the '5 year rule' is something that may be added to agency contracts going forward.

I believe it is under one of the clause where the studio holding the distribution rights to a title needs to have an existing contract with the talent. Otherwise the talent can choose to withdraw the title.

But whatever is the cause of removal, the timing where Mihiro choose to delist her titles had set a precedent case where retired actresses can choose assert their rights under the new ruling.

 

[whitelily]

If thats what some of the AV actresses want then we should respect that. Might be bit of a bummer if it's one of your favorites but there is enough other stuff out there. I am not opposed to this being added to agency contracts, since I feel that the actresses should also have a say in what happens with their old footage after being retired for a while.

 

[silent1one]

I can understand Saori Hara since she's trying out her mainstream acting career again even though the pay for toku is very low, but she's distancing herself from av overall. she didn't even promote her hk movie after the supposed 311 trauma. however, mihiro continuously associate with past and current av idols as well did some nude for Vcinemas or small theater release movies after her retirement 8 years ago, so it's definitely a surprises she's the one that do it first. Sora, rio, yuma, Aino, and many more close muscat friends that still sort of socially active might follow the suit as well since some of them fade away entirely and probably have families now. Oh yeah, sora still films bed scenes in her new mainstream movie as well even after marriage, so I guess her husband must be very open about it. She broke up with a few exes because she wants to continue doing av back then when the pay was good. She did a live stream on line yesterday, and there was a moment where there was almost 200k watching despite she didn't looked her best. I guess it was mostly taiwanese and chinese fans. A lot of av idols like yui, anri, and many more have huge weibo followings and their events are more grand as well since it's once in a year to meet them.

 

[silent1one]

I not japanesus but it seems that jav is far more accepted than porn is in usa....There are no xxx performers on tv in usa. stormy daniels is an exception

American pornstars are stereotypical portrayed as drug addicted dumb blonde that could carry std and the most you can see them is in b softcore movies or indie flick. Maybe a biopic like belle Knox and the girl from the 70s. Jav idols, the popular ones are treated like goddesses at Asian events and some gets to move on to mainstream media in other countries. It sucks that degrading and r*** av is more common in av than USA. A lot of creepy old guys violating young idols is a common trope/genre. Amwf stars is no exceptions in Japan. Those guys get paid to act out their wildest fantasy. I'm curious to know how much is it scripted. Even though is consent or contract obligation, those guys wouldn't date av idols because they can't and they don't need to to enjoy them. Most have their own family, but then normal fans need a thick pocket to score a date and something more. Mihiro and sora film pretty much vanilla during the peak of their av career. They're still doing erotic stuffs after marriage.

 

[paparoach408]

American pornstars are stereotypical portrayed as drug addicted dumb blonde that could carry std and the most you can see them is in b softcore movies or indie flick. Maybe a biopic like belle Knox and the girl from the 70s. Jav idols, the popular ones are treated like goddesses at Asian events and some gets to move on to mainstream media in other countries. It sucks that degrading and r*** av is more common in av than USA. A lot of creepy old guys violating young idols is a common trope/genre. Amwf stars is no exceptions in Japan. Those guys get paid to act out their wildest fantasy. I'm curious to know how much is it scripted. Even though is consent or contract obligation, those guys wouldn't date av idols because they can't and they don't need to to enjoy them. Most have their own family, but then normal fans need a thick pocket to score a date and something more. Mihiro and sora film pretty much vanilla during the peak of their av career. They're still doing erotic stuffs after marriage.

You keep speaking that same bs about American porn smh if you’re going to talk about anything in regards to American porn is how these new laws are going to affect the actresses big time(not on film but all the other stuff besides it they do)

 

[lpcs1]

In Japan, when arrested, name, age, occupation etc will be reported.

So how long is she going to jail for? I heard drug laws are pretty tough over there

 

[silent1one]

So how long is she going to jail for? I heard drug laws are pretty tough over there

Risa coda was caught back in 08 too I think. I don't remember if her case was as big or the law was different back then, but she was released a few years later and wrote a memoir. She's on instagram / twitter partying around nowadays. Kikuchiarisa

 

[ding73ding]

jwlim80: where does it say Mihiro's content is being removed specifically for this reason? From what I recall reading, the '5 year rule' is something that may be added to agency contracts going forward.

I am not a huge fan of hers nor do I know her that well. But on surface she doesn't seem like a stereotype victim of abuse. So I tend to guess her reason isn't to erase her past. (plus @silent1one says about her recent career)

So it's back to issue of royalty. If idols don't get a yen out of continuing DVD sales they have zero incentive for continuing success. It might not be a tangible incentive to delist the old AV sales. But simply watching others make profit and not get a yen or even a thank out of it. If the system allows a zero cost way to delist it, surely more than a few would do it just for psychological reason. Even I can imagine some profit motive for it. If Mihiro is doing v-cinema, would it be a positive effect to delist AV sales on DMM/Amazon? Perhaps... she might want that the only legit way to see her now is to buy her v-films (which she is continuing to receive income for). If you can see her nude and at same time can see her in sex vids (as younger self) the AV might be a strong competition which cuts into her v-film sales. As I analyzed before, this 5 year rule thing is more than just giving the girls more "protection", it's a deep shift of economic power from industry to idols.

Crazy speculation: the setup now is not sustainable. (1) industry might want to crawl back that 5 year delisting power, but it's almost impossible at least for now; (2) industry might have to compensate for lost income due to Mihiro and similar ex-idols delisting, that means current and future idols' income will be squeezed, IMHO this is not good for fans; (3) one way out of it is change the payment formula so that some part of idol income shift to royalty proportional to DVD sales. If ex-idol gets a checque (even if amount is small) monthly or yearly from those 5-10 years old vids she has some financial and psychological incentive to do nothing against DMM/Amazon. Or, if the sales is so low that the ex-idol gets almost nothing (100 yens for half a year) she might feel more like delisting herself, but also the loss to industry is near zero. Of course this is also a long shot, there are many reasons (excuses) this idea create new problems. But IMHO doing nothing is worse.

 

[silent1one]

I am not a huge fan of hers nor do I know her that well. But on surface she doesn't seem like a stereotype victim of abuse. So I tend to guess her reason isn't to erase her past. (plus @silent1one says about her recent career)

So it's back to issue of royalty. If idols don't get a yen out of continuing DVD sales they have zero incentive for continuing success. It might not be a tangible incentive to delist the old AV sales. But simply watching others make profit and not get a yen or even a thank out of it. If the system allows a zero cost way to delist it, surely more than a few would do it just for psychological reason. Even I can imagine some profit motive for it. If Mihiro is doing v-cinema, would it be a positive effect to delist AV sales on DMM/Amazon? Perhaps... she might want that the only legit way to see her now is to buy her v-films (which she is continuing to receive income for). If you can see her nude and at same time can see her in sex vids (as younger self) the AV might be a strong competition which cuts into her v-film sales. As I analyzed before, this 5 year rule thing is more than just giving the girls more "protection", it's a deep shift of economic power from industry to idols.

Crazy speculation: the setup now is not sustainable. (1) industry might want to crawl back that 5 year delisting power, but it's almost impossible at least for now; (2) industry might have to compensate for lost income due to Mihiro and similar ex-idols delisting, that means current and future idols' income will be squeezed, IMHO this is not good for fans; (3) one way out of it is change the payment formula so that some part of idol income shift to royalty proportional to DVD sales. If ex-idol gets a checque (even if amount is small) monthly or yearly from those 5-10 years old vids she has some financial and psychological incentive to do nothing against DMM/Amazon. Or, if the sales is so low that the ex-idol gets almost nothing (100 yens for half a year) she might feel more like delisting herself, but also the loss to industry is near zero. Of course this is also a long shot, there are many reasons (excuses) this idea create new problems. But IMHO doing nothing is worse.

She's one of many av idols that wrote a memoir that also got adapted in to a movie, but she made it more dramatic because unlike others that was r***ing and abused or suffer a drug addiction, her life is pretty normal. She seems to be one of the country girl that wanted to escape her boring life and go to live in the cities where pop culture thrives. She like mikami boasted her salary on abematv specials and once mentioned that her classmate found out she did nude and softcore Vcinemas. i think she said she was push by her manager or agent to film av to make more money. Like Yuma, she wanted to be a singer, but she doesn't possess any amazing talent for it and was hoping her av career will help her achieve that goal. She was once rumor to had a fling with an old comedian co-star. I felt like people can concieve her as a tricky manipulative one that poses as very innocent. Anyway, i dont think she'll give an answer. At least some like yui, Aino, and few more say gravure is saturated and av was booming back then, so it's an option for them to live luxuriously since they're some of the favorites that get a decent paying contract for them to join. Still not comparable to yua mikami though.

Should av idols be getting royalties like celebrities from tv reruns or merchandise sales? I guess this seem plausible. Like sora, she isn't afraid to show some skin in movie or night drama from time to time like Dan mitsu show.

 

[vimana456]

So how long is she going to jail for? I heard drug laws are pretty tough over there

She is recidivist under suspension of enforcement, so I think it is a 2-3 year prison sentence.
If drugs discovered in large quantities are for sale purpose, it will be a fine of not more than 5 million yen, in addition to imprisonment of more than 1 year and less than 20 years.
I think that it will probably be a prison sentence about 10 years.
I think that the owner of a large amount of drugs is not her but the cohabitants.

 

[ding73ding]

She is recidivist under suspension of enforcement, so I think it is a 2-3 year prison sentence.
If drugs discovered in large quantities are for sale purpose, it will be a fine of not more than 5 million yen, in addition to imprisonment of more than 1 year and less than 20 years.
I think that it will probably be a prison sentence about 10 years.
I think that the owner of a large amount of drugs is not her but the cohabitants.

Would you give a proper translation of the actual evidence found against her? I don't think any English source was clear about that. Reading the kanji on tv screen it seems like amphetamine or methamphetamine. Also the quantity was unclear. The point is Japanese police like most police like to inflate and makes every drug crime a "Major Drug Bust" so I think an English wrote something like she was caught with so many many million yens worth of drug in the aftermarket or something contorted like that. But the photos I saw was just a couple of small plastic bags (size of a sandwich?).

I also saw a Chinese article (playno1) says another AV idol who's friend with Nozomi Asou and was defending her before this latest arrest. Now she says she feel betrayed by Nozomi but OTOH it seems within the AV circle no one had first hand knowledge Nozomi was involved in drugs and especially safe to assume Nozomi was NOT selling drugs in AV circle.

 

[vimana456]

Would you give a proper translation of the actual evidence found against her? I don't think any English source was clear about that. Reading the kanji on tv screen it seems like amphetamine or methamphetamine. Also the quantity was unclear. The point is Japanese police like most police like to inflate and makes every drug crime a "Major Drug Bust" so I think an English wrote something like she was caught with so many many million yens worth of drug in the aftermarket or something contorted like that. But the photos I saw was just a couple of small plastic bags (size of a sandwich?).

Images of confiscated goods are on this post.
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/jav-gossips.1726810/page-50#post-3651105
She possessed 56 grams of amphetamine.
The market price of 3,600,000 yen, about 1900 times the amount that can be used, and too much to use for personal use, there is a suspicion that it was selling.
Several other illegal drugs such as cocaine and marijuana, weighing instruments etc are also seized.

I also saw a Chinese article (playno1) says another AV idol who's friend with Nozomi Asou and was defending her before this latest arrest. Now she says she feel betrayed by Nozomi but OTOH it seems within the AV circle no one had first hand knowledge Nozomi was involved in drugs and especially safe to assume Nozomi was NOT selling drugs in AV circle.

That woman is probably Kaori Kanzaki.
https://twitter.com/kaori_knzk

 

[paparoach408]

Images of confiscated goods are on this post.
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/jav-gossips.1726810/page-50#post-3651105
She possessed 56 grams of amphetamine.
The market price of 3,600,000 yen, about 1900 times the amount that can be used, and too much to use for personal use, there is a suspicion that it was selling.
Several other illegal drugs such as cocaine and marijuana, weighing instruments etc are also seized.


That woman is probably Kaori Kanzaki.
https://twitter.com/kaori_knzk

So aka she’s going to jail for a long time unless she rats out her supplier and gets it reduced but no matter what she’ll be in jail and her already dead jav career is never coming back

And she burned a lot of bridges kinda not shocked her last friend within just left her

 

[ding73ding]

Yes and yes. I had to do a little research to figure out how bad is 56 grams, from the photo it look rather unimpressive. Looks like a user/addict who moonlight as dealer to help pay for her addiction. So ok 56 grams of pure amphetamine would be worth about 1000 USD in UK or Europe (didn't see data on Japan, it's conceivable it's 3x more expensive in Japan, for 360,000 yens). So Japanese police does a standard 10x inflation?

Back to earlier mention of Risa Coda, did she go to prison for a few years for being an addict, not dealer/maker?

Japanese drug laws are pretty draconian (they saw what happened to China in opium wars). So yes she broke some serious laws, but she probably gets harsher treatment by the law because she's in sex industry not some rich businessman or politician.

I'm interested in her case not because she's interesting idol. For me she was only average even in her peak. IIRC she wasn't that good even in uncensored vids. But I was wondering if her case can tell us something about AV industry. So of course all the studios and industry types publicly distance themselves from anyone involved in drugs, that's expected and tells us nothing. But her friend Kaori Kanzaki's responses tell us that drug use and especially drug dealing in AV is really uncommon and negative.

So that's a good thing.

 

[vimana456]

Yes and yes. I had to do a little research to figure out how bad is 56 grams, from the photo it look rather unimpressive. Looks like a user/addict who moonlight as dealer to help pay for her addiction. So ok 56 grams of pure amphetamine would be worth about 1000 USD in UK or Europe (didn't see data on Japan, it's conceivable it's 3x more expensive in Japan, for 360,000 yens). So Japanese police does a standard 10x inflation?

Regarding market price, it is 2,000 yen per one time, and there are many Japanese who are surprised by the cheapness.

Back to earlier mention of Risa Coda, did she go to prison for a few years for being an addict, not dealer/maker?

She was sentenced to imprisonment for 1 year and 4 months.

 

[paparoach408]

Regarding market price, it is 2,000 yen per one time, and there are many Japanese who are surprised by the cheapness.


She was sentenced to imprisonment for 1 year and 4 months.

Minako Komukai another user got 1 year 6 months
they both after there first arrest had suspended sentences, and on the second arrest(Minakos third but the second had no evidence) they got the prison sentences
Nozomi has already been arrested once, so if she was just using she's going to jail for 16-18 months if you compare to the other two, if they have evidence that she was trying to sell then it'll be way longer

 

[ball7]

Asuka Kirara has graduated from Ebisu Muscat.
-In a statement to the media, she has said she would like to focus on managing her clothesline.
I think she might end up putting her AV career on standby.

 

[silent1one]

Asuka Kirara has graduated from Ebisu Muscat.
-In a statement to the media, she has said she would like to focus on managing her clothesline.
I think she might end up putting her AV career on standby.

Good for her in investing for her future