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ding73ding

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I posted this on Twitter and copying here:

"16 former #JAV stars have got their content removed recently. My question: to avoid a double standard, how will the IPPA react when the first ACTOR requests all the titles he was in be removed? "I have moved on with my life. Please take down the 5000 movies I was in.""
Every thing in porn/JAV is double standard between female and male performers. I'm pretty sure studs don't enjoy the privilege of delisting.
 

silent1one

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Every thing in porn/JAV is double standard between female and male performers. I'm pretty sure studs don't enjoy the privilege of delisting.
Not all girls are high paying diva as well. Some girls are relatively unknown currently and in the past just making enough to get by month by month. There are some probably want to clear their past too regardless of how famous they are. Av are always dominated by the same guys. They say they don't have enough men, but the salary is low for newbies and it's like the guys form their own mini group to fend of new competitors. Shimiken and the same group of guys are as well known as some popular girls after working 20 plus years sharing scenes with eachother. Even if you don't watch a lot if av, you recognize some of them.
 

ding73ding

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The tweet is from a retired actress and the lawyer is a woman. The lawyer who have records of successes and was recommened to the actresses by a somebody in the human rights group.
That explains it. The "human rights group" are nothing but profiteering racket giving themselves a noble sounding name. Bunch of lawyers sit together and brainstorm money making scheme:
1. find disgruntled ex-idols, convert them from disgruntled and self-doubtful to ruined victims. blame the industry for the bad apples.
2. support doxing of idols, start or flame public shaming and bullying of ex-idols.
3. get the AV industry to fund these BS association such as IPPA, ethics companies and human right group, but the funds 100% goes to parasites and leeches (I mean lawyers)
4. when ex-idols suffering from public shaming need help, she has to pay overblown fee for delisting. Slightly but not much less than the income she originally received from shooting each vid.

DAMN, I should have gone to law school.
 

Supmop

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Reality check :-

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The legal fee of delisting a title isn't cheap. The human rights lawyer do not do pro bono. That is why we do not have more delistment.

where do you know about it ? :D

That explains it. The "human rights group" are nothing but profiteering racket giving themselves a noble sounding name. Bunch of lawyers sit together and brainstorm money making scheme:
1. find disgruntled ex-idols, convert them from disgruntled and self-doubtful to ruined victims. blame the industry for the bad apples.
2. support doxing of idols, start or flame public shaming and bullying of ex-idols.
3. get the AV industry to fund these BS association such as IPPA, ethics companies and human right group, but the funds 100% goes to parasites and leeches (I mean lawyers)
4. when ex-idols suffering from public shaming need help, she has to pay overblown fee for delisting. Slightly but not much less than the income she originally received from shooting each vid.

DAMN, I should have gone to law school.

only fools who think this act are truly for noble cause :D

yesss, I choose the wrong job :(
 

jwlim80

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From a lawyer's perspective, everything is just a civil suit where it's hard to tell who is in the wrong. So there are no moral obligations to do pro bono services.

On the other hand, from the sole example of the legal fee quotations, the amount shown are kind of on the low side. So for a top actress whose go on a monthly released and career lasted a little over 2 years :-

4500 + (90×24) = 6660.

Round everything up to USD 7000 for the consultation fee and it's quite possible for her to erase her past. Provided she knows how to set some money aside.

But as it goes, all parties involve seems very reluctant for a court case. So it's just mostly paperwork for the lawyer. USD 7000 for paperworks seems a bit much.
 

Supmop

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From a lawyer's perspective, everything is just a civil suit where it's hard to tell who is in the wrong. So there are no moral obligations to do pro bono services.

On the other hand, from the sole example of the legal fee quotations, the amount shown are kind of on the low side. So for a top actress whose go on a monthly released and career lasted a little over 2 years :-

4500 + (90×24) = 6660.

Round everything up to USD 7000 for the consultation fee and it's quite possible for her to erase her past. Provided she knows how to set some money aside.

But as it goes, all parties involve seems very reluctant for a court case. So it's just mostly paperwork for the lawyer. USD 7000 for paperworks seems a bit much.

c'mon the reason they do pro bono not only because moral obligation

if you don't know about it, no need to talk more about it, like oftenly you're confused with the topic :D
 

jwlim80

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c'mon the reason they do pro bono not only because moral obligation

if you don't know about it, no need to talk more about it, like oftenly you're confused with the topic :D

Look, I understand that NPOs are permitted by law to receive administrative costs within a certain threshold.

I'm saying that they can waiver the charges and pay out of their own pockets if they choose to.
 

whitelily

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Was about to post it haha.

I wish he would have asked her some better questions. This was standard stuff.
It was pretty evident from her answers that she regrets her porn career.
Also how she described that she sometimes had to escape mentally to do the job... I am sure its like that for a lot of actresses. Whether it's with alchohol, drugs or just making themselves zone out on the spot.
At least we got some deeper answers than usual. Interviews with women who are still in porn are always way too one-sided and happy-go-lucky. Can't bite the hand that feeds you.
 

jwlim80

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Was about to post it haha.

I wish he would have asked her some better questions. This was standard stuff.
It was pretty evident from her answers that she regrets her porn career.
Also how she described that she sometimes had to escape mentally to do the job... I am sure its like that for a lot of actresses. Whether it's with alchohol, drugs or just making themselves zone out on the spot.
At least we got some deeper answers than usual. Interviews with women who are still in porn are always way too one-sided and happy-go-lucky. Can't bite the hand that feeds you.

True. Despite what she is saying, her body language betrays her. Defensive posture and all. There must be something she is not telling.
 

silent1one

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True. Despite what she is saying, her body language betrays her. Defensive posture and all. There must be something she is not telling.
Reminds me of Japanese man yuta channel. Well, he doesn't want to look like a douche online and shame the girl. Plus i think regular audience would find this new. She probably wouldn't agree to do the interview if he ask a lot of personal and very private questions. Adam from no jumper did a few American pornstar interview podcast too.
 

ding73ding

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It was pretty evident from her answers that she regrets her porn career.
Also how she described that she sometimes had to escape mentally to do the job... I am sure its like that for a lot of actresses. Whether it's with alchohol, drugs or just making themselves zone out on the spot.
You just made up random shit out of you ass, aren't you?

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True. Despite what she is saying, her body language betrays her. Defensive posture and all. There must be something she is not telling.
Well she really hate AV fans who are hypocritical, judgemental and moralistic. But she's too polite to say honestly about the bread and butter.
 

jwlim80

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Solid sensationalism-free interview. If you’re looking for flaws and ‘hidden signs’, you’re digging too deeply. She seems content with her time as a JAV star.

And also a basic, sterile and netural one for those who have no in depth knowledge about the industry. The interviewer did not ask her about the whole coercion fiasco, the newly implemented 5 year rule, AV going international and where she stands amongst everything. That will give us more in depth about her thoughts.

Well she really hate AV fans who are hypocritical, judgemental and moralistic. But she's too polite to say honestly about the bread and butter.

Possibly. But the way the interview is presented, everything is all too smooth going and gives a feeling is all scripted.
 

Inertia

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jwlim80: I don't believe it was his intention to do an in-depth tell-all. It still remains to be seen just how this '5 year rule' will be implemented. There is a lot of self-regulation in JAV, sure, but it's not iron-clad, and asking an actress who already retired about these events may not be ideal.

There also seems to be a lot of armchair psychologists in this thread critiquing her body language (or lack of it).

It's a nice interview. It went a bit beyond what you usually see for JAV star interviews and it was nice to watch. The end.
 

jwlim80

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jwlim80: I don't believe it was his intention to do an in-depth tell-all. It still remains to be seen just how this '5 year rule' will be implemented. There is a lot of self-regulation in JAV, sure, but it's not iron-clad, and asking an actress who already retired about these events may not be ideal.

It's a good introductory peek into the industry. But shame that it does not provide the updates on latest happenings.

And I'm sure that some they left out some personal questions that will interest the viewers like had she really reach orgasm in any of her film and how many are just acts ? Did she develop any feelings towards her recurring male co star ? And that part about working 28 days, how do they deal with mensurations on set ?

There also seems to be a lot of armchair psychologists in this thread critiquing her body language (or lack of it).

Nothing really compared to what the denizens of 4chan are analyzing and speculating :-

http://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/18962442
 
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ding73ding

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And also a basic, sterile and netural one for those who have no in depth knowledge about the industry. The interviewer did not ask her about the whole coercion fiasco, the newly implemented 5 year rule, AV going international and where she stands amongst everything. That will give us more in depth about her thoughts.
Possibly. But the way the interview is presented, everything is all too smooth going and gives a feeling is all scripted.
Well we all know the kind of fans you are, so unless she pulls out a jar of pickled fetus and declare it the result of gang r*** by studio bosses, I doubt you will be satisfied.

jwlim80: I don't believe it was his intention to do an in-depth tell-all. It still remains to be seen just how this '5 year rule' will be implemented. There is a lot of self-regulation in JAV, sure, but it's not iron-clad, and asking an actress who already retired about these events may not be ideal.

There also seems to be a lot of armchair psychologists in this thread critiquing her body language (or lack of it).

It's a nice interview. It went a bit beyond what you usually see for JAV star interviews and it was nice to watch. The end.
People have a fanatic worship of journalism. As if journalist will free us from the world of lies. I've never heard of Asian Boss, I'll just assume it's a small time youtube channel, half hobby, half a little small business venture (I'd guess initial investment in the range of a thousand USD)

Emiri Okazaki is a private citizen, and active entrepreneur with her own cosmetic company (which unfortunately could mean anything between a boss of a big business to a mid-rank agent in a pyramid scheme). Anyway between those two extremes her own fortune depends on establishing and protecting her external image. No one buys cosmetic from a woman who has rows of needle marks on her forearms and claim her life was ruined by porn or yakuza or alcohol or drugs.

Why would she agree to an interview? One, because Asian Boss is small time, I think she receive payment for her time. It's fair and legit, but it's a factor. Two, she agrees to interview only if the result is at the very least neutral, but more likely positive for her. She wants to get more job offers, more customers for her products and more customers to the hostess bar asking for her service. She has all these things going for her, would she say stuffs that hurt her personal image?

So what do people expect as "in-depth tell-all"? she already told very private, family and relation stories. She reveal very deep thinking about, say, talking to her (eventual) child. Only the guy missed an question after Emiri basically declare she would support her daughter if she insist on doing porn:
Q: What if you have a son and he watches porn all day.
A: (HIGHLY HIGHLY SPECULATIVE) I will whip his behind until it's bright red and kick him out on the street and tell him if he wants sex, find a girl and learn to make love. And get a job first.

I found the interview far far more than just NICE. It's very honest, very insightful and tells us very much not just about herself but the industry and society, if you actually listen, and yes, watch her body language. The entirety of it is that the industry is the industry, ALL of the nastiness come from the outside society (mother, boyfriend, non-porn entertainment), not the industry.
 

ding73ding

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(sorry double post, and I realized too late to fill in another post, so leave it blank)
 
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jwlim80

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Well we all know the kind of fans you are, so unless she pulls out a jar of pickled fetus and declare it the result of gang r*** by studio bosses, I doubt you will be satisfied.

Life is mostly made up of disappointments. So I rather be the brooding pessimist than the hopeless romantic.

So what do people expect as "in-depth tell-all"? she already told very private, family and relation stories. She reveal very deep thinking about, say, talking to her (eventual) child. Only the guy missed an question after Emiri basically declare she would support her daughter if she insist on doing porn:
Q: What if you have a son and he watches porn all day.
A: (HIGHLY HIGHLY SPECULATIVE) I will whip his behind until it's bright red and kick him out on the street and tell him if he wants sex, find a girl and learn to make love. And get a job first.

I found the interview far far more than just NICE. It's very honest, very insightful and tells us very much not just about herself but the industry and society, if you actually listen, and yes, watch her body language. The entirety of it is that the industry is the industry, ALL of the nastiness come from the outside society (mother, boyfriend, non-porn entertainment), not the industry.

Yes, she speaks mostly about herself and her view on society. But skims on how the industry treats the girl. Based on your theory and how quickly the studios and agency reacts to the recent allegations aganist it, it will seem that everything is depressingly legit and the actresses have a lot of say in how things are run.

So what does that make the girls who turn their backs on the industry after gaining everything ? Theoritical traitor who cave in to societal and family pressure instead of standing their ground to this is who they are ? I realise that nothing is ever so clear in life but it makes an interesting discourse of a case study on if it is better to be individualistic or falling in line to society's demands.

This isn't 4chan who cares how they react, should we bring up how Scanlovers reacts to certain things all the time?

Well, one of the post there deduce that Emiri is a victim of Stockholm Syndrome based on her shifting eyes. There are worse way to analyse a person than to look at his posture during a interview session.