Mikami Yua and other Girls Next Door

Let's be clear, "girl next door" (GND) by itself, is NOT a strong compliment. It just means "she's not a knock-out beauty", "she's not a diva/bitch/dominatrix/man-eater/seductress".

Technically it's not even complimentary, it's neutral at best. It's often used in a complimentary by appending it to a girl/woman who's already remarkable, say Ai Uehara, "well she can take on 5 men at once and satisfy all of them, but you can't tell just looking at her, just girl next door". I don't know if the term was invented by Playboy, but Playboy, back in 70s were trying so hard to brand their version of adult entertainment as "not a trash whore", other men's mags would feature women you would jerk off to, but never marry or even wish to be seen with in public. So GND was just code for "not a human garbage" but yet you can see her naked and masturbate to.

Another parallel trend/schtick is "from the block" or "from the Bronx". Yeah J-Lo, sure she's a super star... well it's Akiba...so call her super idol. But she's not Madonna (think ), she's not Taylor Swift, she's "Jenny from the block". It just means she's not a goddess.

So picking over the pics posted in this thread:

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Right there Yua Mikami is disqualified. The cute and elaborate hat, bare shoulders, fucia pokka dots, vinyl, make-up that typical of celebrity. Not a girl next door.

I do like this picture very much, in a way she has a quality... what is it, perhaps a star quality (i.e. opposite of girl next door). Kind of like Megan Fox or Olivia Munn has quit mainstream and make porn. Raise you hands if you want to see one of them sucking sperm from a big black cock.

Similar these pics of Airi Suzumura gives me a boner (and I'm not even a big fan of moe/maid) but she's not GND:
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At first it might seem ABP-277 comes closer to GND (comfortable cloths, light make-up), but still NO. It's fine to catch a glimpse of cleavage of a GND, but a GND would never consciously squeeze her boobs together and upward to make men stare at them. She's aware of her sexual attraction and using it, not GND.

Following: yes GND, first girl is perfect, cotton is the GND fabric. The girl in front of Universal Studio is especially good example, that ensemble isn't ugly, perhaps cute even, but it would not stir up any carnal desires in men and boys alike.


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I could not disagree more.

How in the world can a super slut like Ai Uehara be considered "girl next door"? Someone please explain this to me as I seem to be in the minority on this.

And how in the world is a sweet, angel like Airi Suzumura not "girl next door"?

So if I'm reading this right, apparently Airi is not girl next door because she wears a shirt that presses her boobs together and that makes her too sexual. Meanwhile a cock whore like Ai who is happy to get creampie anal gangbanged by dozens of men is somehow the unassuming, take-home-to-mother, "girl next door"? What?! Am I missing something here?
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Edit: here are a few definitions I found, they seem to agree with me:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlNextDoor
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3kwkf1/guys_how_do_you_definedescribe_a_girl_next_door/
http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_100/111_dating_tips.html

Nowhere does it say the girl can't be beautiful, in fact they say quite the opposite.
They state that the girl is nurturing, sweet, wholesome; definitely not slutty.
 
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I could not disagree more.

How in the world can a super slut like Ai Uehara be considered "girl next door"? Someone please explain this to me as I seem to be in the minority on this.
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The only way you could justify Ai Uehara as girl next door is from her beginning days when she looked like this
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The time before she became this
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as was discussed a little bit here https://www.akiba-online.com/thread...sters-what-a-complete-turn-off.1522703/page-2

But there's really no way to justify modern Ai as a "girl next door" type
 
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pikuseru said:
Yeah Ai Uehara fixed her teeth, so she is no longer girl next door. Girl next door means crooked teeth.
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less about the fixed teeth aspect, and more about a complete change of her look and turning into a top tier slut.

in my personal opinion pre and post Ai change I don't think she fit the Girl Next Door model, just trying to find out reasons why others see her as a girl next door.
 
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pikuseru said:
Yeah Ai Uehara fixed her teeth, so she is no longer girl next door. Girl next door means crooked teeth.
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I detect sarcasm.

paparoach408 said:
less about the fixed teeth aspect, and more about a complete change of her look and turning into a top tier slut.

in my personal opinion pre and post Ai change I don't think she fit the Girl Next Door model, just trying to find out reasons why others see her as a girl next door.
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OK good. I see I'm not the only one.
 
paparoach408 said:
less about the fixed teeth aspect, and more about a complete change of her look and turning into a top tier slut.

in my personal opinion pre and post Ai change I don't think she fit the Girl Next Door model, just trying to find out reasons why others see her as a girl next door.
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If you read others' posts here, in which they explained in detail why they see her as a girl next door, maybe you see the reasons why others see her as a girl next door.

Or perhaps you can explain to us what exactly you see that is different about her look other than her teeth, and how exactly these differences drastically transformed her from a "girl next door" to a "top tier slut." I can see her hair is different now but still I am confused.
 
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pikuseru said:
If you read others' posts here, in which they explained in detail why they see her as a girl next door, maybe you see the reasons why others see her as a girl next door.

Or perhaps you can explain to us what exactly you see that is different about her look other than her teeth, and how exactly these differences drastically transformed her from a "girl next door" to a "top tier slut." I can see her hair is different now but still I am confused.
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I think to your first point the issue is nobody is following the same criteria for girl next door

and your second point. I never saw Ai as a girl next door in any aspect but, Ai Uehara went from a nobody on the cusp of retirement to fairly rapid rising superstar because she changed her look, I mean she could've done the Anal, DPs and all that stuff with her old look but would she have been a star? Look at Aika, before she went full Gyaru she was a "nobody(Pre Gyaru Aika is still best Aika to me)" When she full on changed she's probably a top 3 girl currently, and There are a lot of great performers out there who never get to that next level because they don't have the look to do so.
 
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Well ok... it's hard to talk about a GND who's a retiree and made 50 retirement vids, many of which were the 100-men gangbang type. I understand there's some debate there.

"Sweet and innocent" are tangential. Sweet and innocence could certainly contribute to GND, but a GND need not be sweet and innocent. Especial once you get a GND in a bedroom, or a hot spring or a dungeon, all GND'ness discussion is off. GND is saying girl is "not-too-intimidating from a distance", GND let you transplant your interest in the real life neighborhood girl or co-worker or classmate to this girl on screen who will do your sexual fantasy. So if that fantasy happens to be gokkun say, then well the GND is ready and willing to kneel down and swallow 100 sperm loads.

Look I'm speaking not as a fan of Ai Uehara, and I like Airi Suzumura more than Uehara. Actually if it comes down to a choice, I would disfavor a GND versus many other types of girls, e.g. goddess, hottie, bitch, dom, sub... In a GND vs. MILF, I'd say it's 50-50, GND > old MILF, but GND < hot MILF. Also, GND > loli (just my personal choice).

I think one aspect of GND should be not controversial: in public, GND should be low-key about her femininity and sexuality.

I guess my non-interest is GND is that many many years ago I've stopped being intimidated by goddess or hottie or bitch. Or perhaps you can say I've already got a GND as my life partner. Actually similar for my partner, it's fair to describe me as "Guy Next Door", and previously she would only date Guys Next Door, but now she got me, her interest is in Olympian Gods. Yeah she's loving the Games, weightlifting, diving, gymnastics etc.

So for JAV, I'm not even very excited about beautiful girls, I'm more into either (1) amazing hotties or (2) hardcore sex (e.g. triple penetration).

If you like certain girls or type of girls, fine go crazy over her and share your enthusiasm about her qualities (e.g. sweet and innocent), but "GND" has been misused and abused.
 
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pikuseru said:
Yeah Ai Uehara fixed her teeth, so she is no longer girl next door. Girl next door means crooked teeth.
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sorry can't hold not to laugh when I read this :haha:

paparoach408 said:
less about the fixed teeth aspect, and more about a complete change of her look and turning into a top tier slut.

in my personal opinion pre and post Ai change I don't think she fit the Girl Next Door model, just trying to find out reasons why others see her as a girl next door.
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I think Ding have done very well describing why Ai Uehara is girl next door type

paparoach408 said:
I think to your first point the issue is nobody is following the same criteria for girl next door

and your second point. I never saw Ai as a girl next door in any aspect but, Ai Uehara went from a nobody on the cusp of retirement to fairly rapid rising superstar because she changed her look, I mean she could've done the Anal, DPs and all that stuff with her old look but would she have been a star? Look at Aika, before she went full Gyaru she was a "nobody(Pre Gyaru Aika is still best Aika to me)" When she full on changed she's probably a top 3 girl currently, and There are a lot of great performers out there who never get to that next level because they don't have the look to do so.
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yes I agreeif Aika and Ai Uehara did not change their look they still nobody, can't boost their popularity

but for me, they only done minor change, but there are other factors talent and strong will that bring them to the top spot

in underrated girls thread, I noticed many girls I mentioned there not have much videos, maybe because they not attractive for most studios, maybe because bad agency, or maybe because they lazy to work or picky
 
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one thing for sure, I never consider GND as girls who know nothing about sex (pure and innocent), passive, and give expression that they has been forced to have sex
 
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To be honest, I agree with paparoach408 on that nobody seems to be following the same criteria for GND, which is understandable as an official definition doesn't really exist. I'd tell you guys to look at the first post in this case, but even gd2731 seems to have a hard time defining exactly what GND is (he wrote "talk about actresses that are in this niche. Shes not a loli, older than a schoolgirl, but not quite a fully-blossomed women. Maybe college age is a better fit but I feel like the look is a little different. Almost like a kindergarten teacher").
 
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To be honest, I agree with paparoach408 on that nobody seems to be following the same criteria for GND, which is understandable as an official definition doesn't really exist. I'd tell you guys to look at the first post in this case, but even gd2731 seems to have a hard time defining exactly what GND is (he wrote "talk about actresses that are in this niche. Shes not a loli, older than a schoolgirl, but not quite a fully-blossomed women. Maybe college age is a better fit but I feel like the look is a little different. Almost like a kindergarten teacher").
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yes its based on our own preference, like what I have posted to needsmoreloli, he put pure and innocent because he like lolis

while I don't like those pure innocent and passive type, so we have different opinion

there are a lot of GND that not pure and innocent in real life ;)
 
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I admit this does cause a tightening in my pants. Is it too too TOO early to take bets on when she will do uncensored?
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When shes done with S1 what company do you think she'll move on to? or will she stay with S1 until she retires?

I can see her making stops ar SOD and E-body.
 
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