Name the currently most beautiful AV Idol. Surprise Me.

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Well... my angle is that (1) I'm pretty realistic, or you can say cynical about these things, like when I watch sports, all the drug testing and doping and enforcement in the world won't convince me that sports is "clean". I still watch sports knowing these biomechaniod wonders of technology with pea-size testicles and pickled livers are doing it for glory and mass entertainment. I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

Problem with memes and photos and GIFs is that one or two or three pix doesn't tell you the truth, any more than the DVD covers. Yes with make-up she looks more beautiful than "she is", just as a bad or even malicious pic can make someone look a lot uglier than "she is". The bias you guys have is that you see one bad pix and you assume she's a "monster". But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up. The average women, can gain (say) (randomly saying) 20 points by good make-up in a 100 point scale, but that bring them up to say 70-85 points. If you see a woman who's a 90 or 95, even taking off the make-up she would still be a 75. And if you find 75 not enough, that means not she's ugly, but you need to come out of your room at least once a week.

On the contrary, a bad picture can make someone who's a 75 or 95 looks like a 30. Meaning, a great photo prove a woman is at least pretty (if not as beautiful as the photo) but a bad photo doesn't prove she's ugly. She may be, she may be not. More photos would of course change the equation, but often these discussion are going off to deep space from just one or a few questionable pix.

(2) it's just experience. There are many pair-of-pix with or w/o make-up that shock you guys. Whereas I only need to look at the with-make-up picture and tell she's not beautiful. For purpose of fapping, with make-up many are good enough, but there are quite a few, even with make-up, isn't up to the fapping standard.

Often you guys look at a picture, especially DVD cover, and you get very impressed. I don't get impressed so much, I just look at them for the purpose of fapping, that's not a high standard, I can fap to any marginally pretty girl. Say a thought experiment, I can go to a local McDonald's, if by some magical arrangement I can pick the most attractive 10% of the women at that restaurant at any random time. All of these top 10% women at a random McDonalds, with make-up, with good lighting, good camera and skills, can make a photo more beautiful than a typical S1 or Moodyz cover.

That's just talking about my local district, if I travel 20 mins to some trendy location, the ratio can easily shot up to 40-50%.

Or flip it around, take 4 of my current favs in AV: Shoko, Rion, Yua and Julia. If I rank them against, 100 women at say... a trendy bar Friday night in my city. Shoko may place at top 10 or even top 5 (won't bet on no. 1). Rion would be top 20. Yua would be down below 50, Julia is more difficult to say, some angles she looks good (say at 30), some angles she look quite bad (below 75). (BTW this is just mainly focus on face)


i'm fine if av idols or regular girls in general if they have surgery as long as the before and after isn't a total trainwreck or unidentifable. Also, if they're still nice people, I don't see the problem except when you have kids. However, Genetics can't fool anyone if they don't come clean about their surgery past prior to committing a deeper relationship.

Yua Mikami went from a teen that failed at the morning musune audition to an ok idol at a B-rank idol group to one of the best selling av idol today thanks to surgery. Her popularity and salary rivals of the A-list av idols like Maria Ozawa and Sora Aoi in the past. She's quite a heavy spender and brag about buying an apartment before. It's easy to dig up works from anyone today because of social media. A lot of av idols have some work done. Some could be minor like Aino Kishi and Rio might have their nose and jaws fixed to look smaller and sharper respectively.

I assume you need to be at least 18 or with parent supervision to get surgery, but here's some link I favorited and posted on other forum detailing the change in Yua Mikami facial appearance. If she wants to make it big as an idol and be respected like a cute girl, she gotta undergo surgery in order to compete with other girls. She did a good job. She possess a very dark skin tone, but nothing compares to Aika, though hers is combine with regular tanning salon visit.
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I'm not sure if Yua was the joke of ske48 sometimes, because she got tease at muscat for being dumb in trivia and knowledge test, but that doesn't make her a dumb girl at socializing.

We don't know about her boobs, but Takasho/Shoko looked around the same when she was 18-19 according to the date and probably the time this bts video was filmed.

Gravure idol rio uchilda seems like a natural beauty. She's still very slim and flat today too comparing to 7 years ago when she was 18.
 
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I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

I'm not sure where you live (was it HK?) but that sounds crazy. That's not the norm here at all!

I agree that there are bad pics and that judging someone after one photo is not fair, but at the same time you can't know for sure if that's their worst photo without make-up or their best... I might be too quick to form an opinion on someone's look based on just one photo, but if that's all there is I can't help it. So it is what it is.

But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up.

Really? I couldn't disagree more. Seriously, just look at those girls at the other end of that link that I provided. The difference is MASSIVE when it comes to some of them. Sure, taste plays a part, but still.

For the (2) part, that's just mostly about your taste, so I can't comment, but here it wouldn't be like that at all as far as my taste is concerned. But then again, I don't live in Asia, so who knows what I'd think if I did.
 

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Well... my angle is that (1) I'm pretty realistic, or you can say cynical about these things, like when I watch sports, all the drug testing and doping and enforcement in the world won't convince me that sports is "clean". I still watch sports knowing these biomechaniod wonders of technology with pea-size testicles and pickled livers are doing it for glory and mass entertainment. I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

Problem with memes and photos and GIFs is that one or two or three pix doesn't tell you the truth, any more than the DVD covers. Yes with make-up she looks more beautiful than "she is", just as a bad or even malicious pic can make someone look a lot uglier than "she is". The bias you guys have is that you see one bad pix and you assume she's a "monster". But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up. The average women, can gain (say) (randomly saying) 20 points by good make-up in a 100 point scale, but that bring them up to say 70-85 points. If you see a woman who's a 90 or 95, even taking off the make-up she would still be a 75. And if you find 75 not enough, that means not she's ugly, but you need to come out of your room at least once a week.

On the contrary, a bad picture can make someone who's a 75 or 95 looks like a 30. Meaning, a great photo prove a woman is at least pretty (if not as beautiful as the photo) but a bad photo doesn't prove she's ugly. She may be, she may be not. More photos would of course change the equation, but often these discussion are going off to deep space from just one or a few questionable pix.

(2) it's just experience. There are many pair-of-pix with or w/o make-up that shock you guys. Whereas I only need to look at the with-make-up picture and tell she's not beautiful. For purpose of fapping, with make-up many are good enough, but there are quite a few, even with make-up, isn't up to the fapping standard.

Often you guys look at a picture, especially DVD cover, and you get very impressed. I don't get impressed so much, I just look at them for the purpose of fapping, that's not a high standard, I can fap to any marginally pretty girl. Say a thought experiment, I can go to a local McDonald's, if by some magical arrangement I can pick the most attractive 10% of the women at that restaurant at any random time. All of these top 10% women at a random McDonalds, with make-up, with good lighting, good camera and skills, can make a photo more beautiful than a typical S1 or Moodyz cover.

That's just talking about my local district, if I travel 20 mins to some trendy location, the ratio can easily shot up to 40-50%.

Or flip it around, take 4 of my current favs in AV: Shoko, Rion, Yua and Julia. If I rank them against, 100 women at say... a trendy bar Friday night in my city. Shoko may place at top 10 or even top 5 (won't bet on no. 1). Rion would be top 20. Yua would be down below 50, Julia is more difficult to say, some angles she looks good (say at 30), some angles she look quite bad (below 75). (BTW this is just mainly focus on face)
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Did she forgot to apply her makeup here ? :-
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Seems that she appear to be a bit older than her usual self with the deeper eyebags and cheek folds.
 
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This is an easy one if where going off most beautiful not like hottest or cutest it's Yua Mikami + one of the few girls who looks better in videos than on covers. Kan/shiori yamate is up there too
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Mako Oda, hands down.

Scene 2 of RBD-666 followed by the bathroom scene, finishing a BJ with no hands.
SHKD-575 - kitchen scene, followed by the shower scene with no make up and the last scene (3 total)
SHKD-721 - the entire movie
JUY 113 - one of the best performances ever
RBD 410 - some of her older work, excellent angles
JUX 293 - amazing
JUX 727 - hot spring scene and the last scene
JUFD 560 - great foreplay skills, great performance
JUFD 613 - wildly amazing
ADN-061 - very talented
JUFD - 765 - great
JUX858
JUFD 598
JUFD 780 - best as of 2017
 

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well i dont know about the part "The girls you post must be active and kinda new (5 years old or starting this year)"
but my suggest is :

1. Mei Matsumoto
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i really like her mix race face

2. Haruka Yuki

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She has a great smile

3. Shouko Takahashi

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Beautiful Elegant looks

4. Suzu Mitake

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White skinny big boobs and face, all in one package

5. Fukada Nana

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Really like her face

Above All but i know she has been retired now, is :

Sora Aoi
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She is legend! :p
 

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I'm not sure where you live (was it HK?) but that sounds crazy. That's not the norm here at all!
I agree that there are bad pics and that judging someone after one photo is not fair, but at the same time you can't know for sure if that's their worst photo without make-up or their best... I might be too quick to form an opinion on someone's look based on just one photo, but if that's all there is I can't help it. So it is what it is.
Really? I couldn't disagree more. Seriously, just look at those girls at the other end of that link that I provided. The difference is MASSIVE when it comes to some of them. Sure, taste plays a part, but still.
For the (2) part, that's just mostly about your taste, so I can't comment, but here it wouldn't be like that at all as far as my taste is concerned. But then again, I don't live in Asia, so who knows what I'd think if I did.
I don't know what your "here" is, sure HK is pretty representative of what I'm talking about. It applies to CJK (at least the big cities like Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul). Couple years ago I visited Seoul for the first time, I was particularly hmm... amused... by the number of beauty salons all over the city offering procedures (not sure how "deep" it gets, but certainly needles and knives are involved, we are not just talking about moisturizing face masks). Think about it, I pay attention to certain types of shops (camera, books, hobby) because of my interest, but beauty salons and cosmetic clinics outnumber those shops (combined!) by a huge margin. You might think Koreans have more plastic surgery than they read.

And then, the other places I'm familiar with, New York, Washington, California, some places breast implants are the default norm (the infamous 16th birthday gift from the parents is breast implants). In Manhattan, you notice anyone who look minimally successful, you have to assume they "had something done", probably semi-regularly. Europe, perhaps more humanist and naturalist in many places, but for the top cities, London, Paris, Milan... again my default belief is plastic surgeries etc is common and open secret.

About your "disagreeing", I never said there's no difference between the before- and after- photos. I only said yes there's MASSIVE difference, BUT it's perfectly within expectation. My wife (like all housewives) is a bit into celeb gossips, so she's always showing me celeb pix including unflattering pics. As an amateur photographer myself, it's part of my interest/hobby to take something or someone ordinary and make an impressive photo(set) of it/him/her. So I know, at least it's a common practice (not saying I do process all the skills) to make a MASSIVE better pic of a girl than a few selectively unflattering pic of the same girl. It takes 30-60 minutes of make-up and maybe more time for hair, a decent wardrobe and fashion sense, as little as $100 worth of lighting equipment and at least a couple hours (less for skillful photographer) of shooting.

And then "taste", well I will come out and accuse otakus of being otakus (I do hesitate to accuse you of being one). If most of you interaction with women are 2D (social media, AV, TV, J-/K-pop, mags, internet, or worse: anime/manga/game) then duhhh, your taste is distorted.

I'm old enough and "real" enough that I encounter many many women (especially young-to-mid-age women age 19-40) who use different amount of make up (some of them are never without make-up in public) so I ave a sense of what decent/attractive is, in REAL space, or in 3D, in a way. And then, in 2D (most important for this forum: AV) there's a different standard, a MASSIVELY higher standard. Most otakus don't understand there's a MASSIVE difference between 2D and 3D.


Did she forgot to apply her makeup here ? :-
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Seems that she appear to be a bit older than her usual self with the deeper eyebags and cheek folds.
So it's perfect example of what "beautiful" is different between 2D (gravue and AV) and 3D (private life). And sometimes social media falls in between. Twitters and Instagram (such as these 2 pix and one earlier also of Shoko) are slight more contrived than a "real" 3D situation, but it's norm to get away with "forgotten" make-up.

I always knew Shoko wasn't beautiful (let's say for this conversation, we define "beautiful" as the top 5% most attractive people in a population) (or even 1%, because... really take randomly 20 women, let's even limit to 20 random women age 19-26, and pick the prettiest one, what's the chance that I would be totally charmed and awed? Pretty low. Top 1% means one out of 100, yeah... I guess take 100 random girls, the prettiest one should impress me as beautiful with fairly good probability) . Yes with make-up and lighting etc she's pretty enough to be gravue model, but success in gravue/AV is at least part hardwork and "skills". So I am perfectly content to say both she's my fav AV idol AND she (her "real" self) isn't a particularly beautiful woman. Because the first part (fav AV idol) is in 2D, while the second part (real self) is about 3D.

OTOH, if you look at those "unflattering" shots with "real world" eyes, not think of them as celeb/glamour pix, but 3D private real world life. Well com'on, she's not beautiful (I already said that) but certainly she is pretty enough! And for what purpose? Are you looking at her as object of desire, as (imaginary/potential) hook-up, girlfriend or wife? For those purpose, if you look at those pix and say, ugly! old!? Really? Com'on, I rather doubt your current and ex-girlfriends are better looking in a similar situation ("forgotten" make-up, semi-casual fashion)

And just for the record, I'd bet a dollar she did put on some make-up already when those pix were taken. Seems to me Shoko is the type who never allow her photo to be taken sans make-up.
 

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I don't know what your "here" is

Hmm, I'd rather not say where I'm from, but if you want to have an idea, imagine rural Kentucky, only it's worse. Definitely no plastic surgery here and I only knew two girls who had breast implants, and they were from the biggest city around here.

sure HK is pretty representative of what I'm talking about. It applies to CJK (at least the big cities like Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul). Couple years ago I visited Seoul for the first time, I was particularly hmm... amused... by the number of beauty salons all over the city offering procedures (not sure how "deep" it gets, but certainly needles and knives are involved, we are not just talking about moisturizing face masks). Think about it, I pay attention to certain types of shops (camera, books, hobby) because of my interest, but beauty salons and cosmetic clinics outnumber those shops (combined!) by a huge margin. You might think Koreans have more plastic surgery than they read.

And then, the other places I'm familiar with, New York, Washington, California, some places breast implants are the default norm (the infamous 16th birthday gift from the parents is breast implants). In Manhattan, you notice anyone who look minimally successful, you have to assume they "had something done", probably semi-regularly. Europe, perhaps more humanist and naturalist in many places, but for the top cities, London, Paris, Milan... again my default belief is plastic surgeries etc is common and open secret.

Yeah, Koreans are infamous for plastic surgery, so I'm not surprised. The rest I'm honestly not sure about; to me plastic surgery/breast implants were always something that a few rich people did, it's hard for me to believe that it's "the default norm" in some places. But no personal experience.

About your "disagreeing", I never said there's no difference between the before- and after- photos. I only said yes there's MASSIVE difference, BUT it's perfectly within expectation. My wife (like all housewives) is a bit into celeb gossips, so she's always showing me celeb pix including unflattering pics. As an amateur photographer myself, it's part of my interest/hobby to take something or someone ordinary and make an impressive photo(set) of it/him/her. So I know, at least it's a common practice (not saying I do process all the skills) to make a MASSIVE better pic of a girl than a few selectively unflattering pic of the same girl. It takes 30-60 minutes of make-up and maybe more time for hair, a decent wardrobe and fashion sense, as little as $100 worth of lighting equipment and at least a couple hours (less for skillful photographer) of shooting.

If you look at what I quoted you saying when I said I disagree with you I don't see how this paragraph pertains to that, but all right!


And then "taste", well I will come out and accuse otakus of being otakus (I do hesitate to accuse you of being one). If most of you interaction with women are 2D (social media, AV, TV, J-/K-pop, mags, internet, or worse: anime/manga/game) then duhhh, your taste is distorted.

I'm old enough and "real" enough that I encounter many many women (especially young-to-mid-age women age 19-40) who use different amount of make up (some of them are never without make-up in public) so I ave a sense of what decent/attractive is, in REAL space, or in 3D, in a way. And then, in 2D (most important for this forum: AV) there's a different standard, a MASSIVELY higher standard. Most otakus don't understand there's a MASSIVE difference between 2D and 3D.

Whew, not accusing me of being an otaku is mighty nice of you! Would have been the first time. :) But hey, I can't speak for otakus or anyone else for that matter, but what you're talking about only applies to a few people as far as I can tell, most of them being in Japan/USA.
And hey, I don't think there's massive difference between 2D and 3D as long as there is no tampering with the photos.

I always knew Shoko wasn't beautiful (let's say for this conversation, we define "beautiful" as the top 5% most attractive people in a population) (or even 1%, because... really take randomly 20 women, let's even limit to 20 random women age 19-26, and pick the prettiest one, what's the chance that I would be totally charmed and awed? Pretty low. Top 1% means one out of 100, yeah... I guess take 100 random girls, the prettiest one should impress me as beautiful with fairly good probability) . Yes with make-up and lighting etc she's pretty enough to be gravue model, but success in gravue/AV is at least part hardwork and "skills". So I am perfectly content to say both she's my fav AV idol AND she (her "real" self) isn't a particularly beautiful woman. Because the first part (fav AV idol) is in 2D, while the second part (real self) is about 3D.

OTOH, if you look at those "unflattering" shots with "real world" eyes, not think of them as celeb/glamour pix, but 3D private real world life. Well com'on, she's not beautiful (I already said that) but certainly she is pretty enough! And for what purpose? Are you looking at her as object of desire, as (imaginary/potential) hook-up, girlfriend or wife? For those purpose, if you look at those pix and say, ugly! old!? Really? Com'on, I rather doubt your current and ex-girlfriends are better looking in a similar situation ("forgotten" make-up, semi-casual fashion)

And just for the record, I'd bet a dollar she did put on some make-up already when those pix were taken. Seems to me Shoko is the type who never allow her photo to be taken sans make-up.

Oh no, not those numbers again!!! :aghh:

So if I understan it correctly basically what you're saying is there is a different bar for an AV idol and a regular girl, and she's pretty enough with make-up to be an AV idol but not without make-up. And you say that's some 2D/3D difference?
My point the whole time has been that I prefer girls to be beautiful without make-up too, it has nothing to do with being 2D or 3D. (And I do acknowledge that some people are not photogenic, but still.)

I don't have a girlfriend now, in fact, haven't had one for a good while now, but yes, I do find my exes more beautiful (at least back then they were, but one of them has already ruined herself and the other I don't know).
 
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You people do realise that "Shoko" is just a constructed persona right ? She is not even real in a technical sense.

As she is not even real, there is no established personality we can judge her on, only on the apperance on whoever is playing her.
 
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ding73ding

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imagine rural Kentucky, only it's worse. Definitely no plastic surgery here and I only knew two girls who had breast implants,
ahh.... sorry I remember earlier conversation, I know your "rural Kentucky" ;)
So indeed, I understand we re in quite different regions and cultural norms.

If you look at what I quoted you saying when I said I disagree with you I don't see how this paragraph pertains to that, but all right!
LOL I checked and rechecked, I still think I was responding to your point. But all right! ;)

So if I understan it correctly basically what you're saying is there is a different bar for an AV idol and a regular girl, and she's pretty enough with make-up to be an AV idol but not without make-up. And you say that's some 2D/3D difference?
Hmmm... ok let me try a different way to say the same thing. When I watch AV, or girlie mags or anything remotely sexual (say Wonder Woman, or Blackwidow, or even Superman for that matter... yeah... I have never looked for it, but... Superman gay porn is so so... obvious!) I look for an unrealistic standard, a standard that's pretty much impossible without make-up, even... impossible without Photoshop (tampering).

In some case, it's almost better not even to have an actual image. I was deeply disappointed with the females (humans and elves) in Peter Jackson's Lord of the Ring. When I read the book, in my head were these incredible beauties that even the most beautiful actresses and make up and lighting and photoshopping fail to satisfy me. And... for that matter, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman is a small disappointment too. Fine I understand a modern Wonder Woman shouldn't be all about cleavage and butt cheeks but why can't we have a girl with a more awesome face?

The good old TV version Wonder Woman had those very fappable cleavage and butt cheeks but also her eyes, OMG her eyes were hypnotizing.

And then in real life I have my other standard, and everyone has his taste and standard. No matter if anyone is successful finding a girlfriend or wife to his satisfaction, if you are thinking about AV or gravue pix and letting that 2D world to influence your taste, you are in trouble (some said: I don't find anyone in the girls/boys in my surrounding to be attractive, for me to pursue her/him as a girlfriend/boyfriend)

I think it's kinda silly to dig up these unflattering (taken in "real" life) pix of celebs and idols. All I ever care about is how good they look in the product itself, say MIDE-465. If Shoko looks good in MIDE-465, that's good enough. That someone found some unflattering pix of Shoko forgotten make-up, I say "so what?" I don't care one bit she looks like crap in real life, cause I'm never gonna meet her in person anyway, let alone wake up with her next to me sans make-up with bad hair.

My point the whole time has been that I prefer girls to be beautiful without make-up too, it has nothing to do with being 2D or 3D.
My point the whole time is no one, NO ONE is beautiful without make-up. If your taste is based on 2D experience, it messes you up, both when you see the unflattering pix of your idols and when you interact with normal females without make-up.

You people do realise that "Shoko" is just a constructed persona right ? She is not even real in a technical sense.
Take for example, I doubt that Marvel fanboys cares about the life of Johansson. Blackwidow is all that matters.
Absolutely right!

But then it was you who dig up those pix of her and accuse her of "a bit older than her usual self with the deeper eyebags and cheek folds", so it seems you are changing your tune all the time.

Perhaps there's something else to this whole "real" (3D) vs "persona" (2D) dichotomy. It seems that wearing lots of make-up all day long, year in, year out, is very bad for your skin. So you have this odd situation, a woman who is average (like my wife) who don't even bother to wear make-up everyday, age very well. You see women in their 40s or even 50s who are still very fuckable. And then the celebs, naturally beautiful when they were 14, but thanks to their beauty became celebs (or whatever) and wear make-up 365 days a year, perhaps 16 hrs a day, their skin is ruined, so Shoko at age 26 (?) seem to have below-average skin condition. And Johansson... migods I've seen tons of unflattering pix of her, in real life she looks much older than her persona. Her Major in Ghost in the Shell, yikes! Now I can't even (re)-read the Ghost mangas without remembering how ugly is her movie version.
 
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Absolutely right!

But then it was you who dig up those pix of her and accuse her of "a bit older than her usual self with the deeper eyebags and cheek folds", so it seems you are changing your tune all the time.

Perhaps you will like to check my updated post as I realise my Johansson comment is a bit off. But the point is as a there is only so much you can judged a constructed persona on.
 

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LOL I checked and rechecked, I still think I was responding to your point. But all right! ;)

Hmm, I took a second glance but still don't see how your answer is relevant.

As for the middle section, I don't think I got any new info from that, in fact, I have the exact same conclusion from what you wrote there that I had drawn from your previous comment!

My point the whole time is no one, NO ONE is beautiful without make-up.

And that's where you're wrong! :) At least I disagree, but if you truly think that then I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
 
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There are many I like but to name a couple:

Naomi
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Tia

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Julia
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and I do like Anri Okita
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There seems to be a theme..... Well two big ones :)


I can't believe that I forgot the fine example that made me fall in love with JAV.

The one and only Aimi Yoshikawa

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She is sensational with the most suckable pair of breasts.

I spent many years watching American and European movies and although they had their place, censored JAV has made me use my imagination which I kind of like. Aimi in Hunta-306 was the first movie I saw. So yes I have not been watching JAV very long.
 

cityslicker

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Aug 7, 2008
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Couldnt have agreed with you more. I started watching JAV b/c of Anri Okita then she retired.....found Aimi, but now she is starting to fade. I've yet to find another JAV star to follow....:(