Orgy megathread (no gangbang/harem)

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What's your preferred orgy configuration? I think 4M4F is a basic configuration. 3F is a minimal for an orgy, 2F doesn't even quality as just a basic 3P (MFF) or 4P (double date), .

A bigger orgy may be better, or not. My second post was a 6M6F configuration, it's grand, and it took a lot of smart directing (careful scripting is needed). Then you have the extreme (?) like AVOP last year winner AVOP-119, RKI-218 (8M13F), RKI-318 (10M18F ) (see posted by Supmop). Even with 17 hours of video to spread out the players it still seems too much too many. IMHO any one title should be capped at 150 minutes, any longer than that, better to break up into multiple titles (Parts 1, 2, etc). Even LOTR and Hobbits, at around 4 hours per movie, was too exhausting (sorry that's a non-AV rant). For an orgy vid, my own opinion it should be 90-150 minutes long of one scene (but with rests or breaks). And the number of players for this one scene should be between 7P (3M4F) minimum to say 15P at an extreme stretch.

Then room-to-room is a well known technique (especially for ZUKO), room-to-room (r2r) gets lots of performers in the vid but keep any one scene manageable (otherwise, the screen is crowded with too many sex-ing couples each). I am somehow ambivalent about r2r, with the changing of room/scene/actors, there's some chance I'll get to a screne I like. But r2r reminds me too much I'm a passive audience getting a whirlwind tour of other people having a fuckfest. Often r2r takes me away from the middle of some intense action, making me feel helpless and not in control. Not what I want in orgy vid.

And then what's your pref on M/F ratio? 1:1 is the basic configuration (say 4-by-4) but unbalanced add an interesting tension. I forgot it was Story of O or Emmanuelle that has that theory that sex should ALWAYS be odd numbers: 1P, 3P, 5P etc. If it's even number, it's too easy to pair off and get off. It helps a lot to keep swapping partners. Or have irregular breaks by one player and create temporary mis-balance.

If the males outnumber the females, than we get a gangbang-in-an-orgy which is pretty awesome, it's rare but ZUKO-109 had that going during the first half. If the females outnumber, then we get a harem-in-orgy, which is also awesome. But a natural asymmetry is each female has two or three holes that need filling but each male has only one good appendage. So an MMF DP is more natural/intense than a MFF threesome,
 

Supmop

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What's your preferred orgy configuration? I think 4M4F is a basic configuration. 3F is a minimal for an orgy, 2F doesn't even quality as just a basic 3P (MFF) or 4P (double date), .

cool, now we have more interesting discussion ;)

some people said the minimal for orgy is 5 players, and it must be 3 females vs 2 males or 2 females vs 3 females, and to be qualify as orgy the participants must swap partners

4P MMFF still can be labeled as foursome or couple swinging

for some people group sex is different than orgy, the key factor is partner swapping, example 4 females having sex with 4 males in the same room at the same time, but all the couples got their own territory & they only bussy screwing with their own partner did not made interactions with other couples and did not swap partner = group sex

as for my prefered orgy configuration at least 3 girls, and I agree with you 4 females vs 4 males is basic configuration like has been performed in many JAV, it could be the best, more than 6 females its became more difficult to enjoy it, a lot of actions can't be captured by the camera, and its a waste

I still can enjoy 2 females vs 2 males or more but I think its not qualified as orgy

A bigger orgy may be better, or not. My second post was a 6M6F configuration, it's grand, and it took a lot of smart directing (careful scripting is needed). Then you have the extreme (?) like AVOP last year winner AVOP-119, RKI-218 (8M13F), RKI-318 (10M18F ) (see posted by Supmop). Even with 17 hours of video to spread out the players it still seems too much too many. IMHO any one title should be capped at 150 minutes, any longer than that, better to break up into multiple titles (Parts 1, 2, etc). Even LOTR and Hobbits, at around 4 hours per movie, was too exhausting (sorry that's a non-AV rant). For an orgy vid, my own opinion it should be 90-150 minutes long of one scene (but with rests or breaks). And the number of players for this one scene should be between 7P (3M4F) minimum to say 15P at an extreme stretch.

agree bigger orgy may be better or not

yeah AVOP-119 and many Moodyz's Bako Bako Fans thanksgiving videos is the example of too much participants, and so many wasted actions that can't be captured by cameras, oftenly its shown brief of the action and move to another angle and move again, its not a good way to enjoy orgy video

yes, you give a very good example, a super big project would be better if they made it into multiple titles / parts, like Rookie's anniversary special edition

my favorite is 4 females vs 4 males (and maybe another 2-4 males as substitutes) like in some Moodyz's videos

Then room-to-room is a well known technique (especially for ZUKO), room-to-room (r2r) gets lots of performers in the vid but keep any one scene manageable (otherwise, the screen is crowded with too many sex-ing couples each). I am somehow ambivalent about r2r, with the changing of room/scene/actors, there's some chance I'll get to a screne I like. But r2r reminds me too much I'm a passive audience getting a whirlwind tour of other people having a fuckfest. Often r2r takes me away from the middle of some intense action, making me feel helpless and not in control. Not what I want in orgy vid.

yes its good, by dividing the participants into several rooms, made the viewers can be more focus watching the actions, its not crowded, as long they show all of the actions or at least most of it, sometimes this room to room only focus to 1 room and ignore most of whats happened in the other rooms, its sucks I think

And then what's your pref on M/F ratio? 1:1 is the basic configuration (say 4-by-4) but unbalanced add an interesting tension. I forgot it was Story of O or Emmanuelle that has that theory that sex should ALWAYS be odd numbers: 1P, 3P, 5P etc. If it's even number, it's too easy to pair off and get off. It helps a lot to keep swapping partners. Or have irregular breaks by one player and create temporary mis-balance.

If the males outnumber the females, than we get a gangbang-in-an-orgy which is pretty awesome, it's rare but ZUKO-109 had that going during the first half. If the females outnumber, then we get a harem-in-orgy, which is also awesome. But a natural asymmetry is each female has two or three holes that need filling but each male has only one good appendage. So an MMF DP is more natural/intense than a MFF threesome,

for doing it in real life I agree with the theory, its more fun

but for watching in porn I think balanced ratio is better, because too many girls that the males can't handle will make "dumb moments in JAV" some girls will only watching other peoples having sex, smiling, laughing

yes gangbang in orgy is better than reverse gangbang, because I think male only can handle (optimal) 2 females at the same time

for me prefer to watch 1 female vs 2 males or more than 1 male vs 3 females or more, I feel its more natural
 

darksider59

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Orgy minimal participants question reminds me this :


yeah AVOP-119 and many Moodyz's Bako Bako Fans thanksgiving videos is the example of too much participants, and so many wasted actions that can't be captured by cameras, oftenly its shown brief of the action and move to another angle and move again, its not a good way to enjoy orgy video

It's the orgy image I have because I only tried to watch stuff like AVOP-119, and I agree that there are too many people. But movies like ZUKO-042 look more interesting. In fact, on pornhub, I've seen several orgy around a pool and things like that that look really cool (not a pool like AVOP-119, it was more like a house pool) but sadly, as always on streaming website, no ID or whatsoever.
 

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It's the orgy image I have because I only tried to watch stuff like AVOP-119, and I agree that there are too many people. But movies like ZUKO-042 look more interesting. In fact, on pornhub, I've seen several orgy around a pool and things like that that look really cool (not a pool like AVOP-119, it was more like a house pool) but sadly, as always on streaming website, no ID or whatsoever.

outdoor orgies are fun to watch

but I think JAV will not produce it anymore, many of those videos has been pulled out from the market, and deleted from DMM and studio websites :(
 

darksider59

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Yep, the trailer isn't that much exciting, plus except Ren who is fine, other girls are "meh".
 

Supmop

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Doesn't look like one of the best, but it's outdoor orgy from last week:

VRTM-189
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Yep, the trailer isn't that much exciting, plus except Ren who is fine, other girls are "meh".

I think its interesting to watch

and they got Ren Ayase and Asahi Mizuno

would request the casts are Marina Matsumoto, Maki Hojo, Ryu and Aki Sasaki but its impossible to happen :(
 

Supmop

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Yep, the trailer isn't that much exciting, plus except Ren who is fine, other girls are "meh".

btw talking about Ren Ayase with better girls, last year AV Open was good I think, the theme is orgy and continuous creampie

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Ren Ayase, Yuika Takashima, Ruri Saijo and Natsumi Horiguchi / Natsumi Hirose performed very good there
 

darksider59

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Ren Fukusaki (from VRTM-189) looks like China Matsuoka.

Oh, Nanami Hirose. This girl has serious skills. I remember a movie with Yuuno Hoshi, I wonder how the guy stand that long.
 

Supmop

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Ren Fukusaki (from VRTM-189) looks like China Matsuoka.

Oh, Nanami Hirose. This girl has serious skills. I remember a movie with Yuuno Hoshi, I wonder how the guy stand that long.

you mentioned it ;)

at the first time I know her, she not really my type (when she still slimmer than know and used her old stage name : Natsuki Horiguchi )

but later I seen she have super skills, so I started to collect her videos, yeah she really know how to turn on and "torture the one eye dragon"

her recent appearence, with more chubby body I think she look more sexy :cinta:
 

darksider59

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I think Suzuki Koharu (for what I remember of her) also have a little belly but Hirose is more than 10 years older. But that kind of belly is fine.
 
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love this one they got Ian Hanasaki, Aki Sasaki, Sora Shiina and Risa Onodera, might be perfect if they include Yuna Takase, Iroha Seino and Kana Miyashita too

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I think Suzuki Koharu (for what I remember of her) also have a little belly but Hirose is more than 10 years older. But that kind of belly is fine.

yes their belly is fine, its kinda sexy
 

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Hame Hame Gang Bang Island in Okinawa - Shiho Kano, Hibiki Ootsuki, YURINA, Mahiru Tsubaki.jpg

just noticed Hibiki Otsuki and Shiho Kanou uncenssored orgy video, can't understand why this one can slip from my radar :(

if you guys have the SD video, please let me know and upload it :)
 

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ding73ding

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I'll be hunting, finding, downloading, and watching these Madonna titles.

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LOL I always ignore Supmop's covers-wall posts, yes they are fantastic collection of historic covers but if I can't find these old vids then seeing that they exist only gives me unsatisfied longings. Better to ignore.

But of course if you still have the True Spirit of AV Hunter (TSAH) in you, then go forth on your noble quest, may the Force be with you, and the libido. And next weekend you will devote your weekend to uploading them to my requests, right? :genit:

PS: I am pretty sure I have JUX-171 in my archives, I'll PM you once I pull it out.
 

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LOL I always ignore Supmop's covers-wall posts, yes they are fantastic collection of historic covers but if I can't find these old vids then seeing that they exist only gives me unsatisfied longings. Better to ignore.

But of course if you still have the True Spirit of AV Hunter (TSAH) in you, then go forth on your noble quest, may the Force be with you, and the libido. And next weekend you will devote your weekend to uploading them to my requests, right? :genit:

PS: I am pretty sure I have JUX-171 in my archives, I'll PM you once I pull it out.
Hey, I appreciate it, but JUX-171 isn't one I was going to look for. Seriously, thanks for the offer, though. And of course I'll upload them to your requests!
 

Supmop

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@Supmop I hereby regard you as a destroyer of weekends. Just saw this post...which means no one will see me all weekend because I'll be hunting, finding, downloading, and watching these Madonna titles.

:terharu:

sorry about that :hihi:


I wish you good luck, those videos are really worth it ;)

Hey, I appreciate it, but JUX-171 isn't one I was going to look for. Seriously, thanks for the offer, though. And of course I'll upload them to your requests!

if you don't mind I'll try to request some videos ?

maybe you have it, and if you have it would be awesome if you can share :)

one of them is MTB-003 that I've posted above, and the others is SD quality : MILD-505, IPSD-030, ZONO-031
 
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Supmop

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LOL I always ignore Supmop's covers-wall posts, yes they are fantastic collection of historic covers but if I can't find these old vids then seeing that they exist only gives me unsatisfied longings. Better to ignore.

But of course if you still have the True Spirit of AV Hunter (TSAH) in you, then go forth on your noble quest, may the Force be with you, and the libido. And next weekend you will devote your weekend to uploading them to my requests, right? :genit:

PS: I am pretty sure I have JUX-171 in my archives, I'll PM you once I pull it out.

so far that I know those videos are not difficult to get, because I get it from some JAV sharing sites, and I'm not good in searching for rare videos

haha I'll try to search available links for you ;)
I tought you not interested with those videos, but I'm wrong

let me know videos that you want, I will help you ;)

Seriously I'm only checking this post seriously because @Casshern2 (may the Force be with him) seriously offered to hunt them down for me. And so... WHAT THE F*** there was a MILF-Undercover Detective-Orgy triple crossover??? I just wet my pants... Wait it's not what you think... it's mmm... it's slimy.

hold it until you watch the video ;)
 
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