Orgy megathread (no gangbang/harem)
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Finally got around to check out JUX-215:
Ten Year Festival Women Association Love Juice Flying Conflict War
Eriko Miura, Yuko Shiraki, Nana Aida, Ai Komori, Misa Yuki, Maki Hojo, Chisato Shoda, Ryoko Murakami, Reiko Makihara, Yumi Kazama
Released 2013-12-25
Amazing a torrent is still alive after 3 years. So recommending or hunting for old vids isn't as futile as I thought...
Normally I'd give it a pass. Ten old ladies. Not my thing. When I was a kid, I was whacking off to Yumi Kazama, she still looks good on some 2016 DVD covers, amazing, but sorry she's not 29 anymore. The other 9 ladies, even less.
But the theme is interesting, Japanese traditional festivals were always occasion for romance and passion and joy making. Great vehicle for group sex. And this vid seems to be Madonna's 10th Anniversary grand commemorative special production (10 ladies for 10th year) . Give it a try.
The first (last) thing that hit me was the 1-hour (epic!) "making of" extra or behind-the-scene. This might mean it's really special production that offers something not seen in other AV. The total runtime (counting "making of") is 6hr 50mins. The story seems to be a fishing village is gearing up to hold a once-a-decade special summer fest, the Old MILF Association sorry I mean the Women's Club are supposed to run it, but there's a rift internally. Eriko Miura leads the "Awabi" Club (abalone??) while Nana Aida leads the "Wakame" Club (seaweed??) I have no idea what the argument is, but it is an argument. After a lot of frowning, scowling and staring failed to resolve an agreement they decided to hold a vote. This was a very short talking scene, but I have to say these sexually-has-been old ladies put up some excellent acting as mean-bitch-MILF-Desperate-Housewives that can give any mainstream J-drama a run for their money.
Note the dramatic camera angle (requiring a crane) and not-cheap special effect overlay. No sorry, still can't take the years off these old ladies, but man these ladies are ball-busters.
The rest of the film, Well you know happens in democracy, the electorate will be fucked. For the next 4 hr 45 mins (!) the candidates engaged in campaigning for their clauses meaning they fuck the men to get their votes. With 10 ladies it can easily get unwieldy, but actually this is NOT an orgy vid, as all the sex scenes are 2P or 4P. With that much runtime, it's easy to give each star a good scene. Each scene has a little setup (dialog leading to the seduction) with authentic looking sets (and various: village house, public toilet, Western style bedroom, bathhouse, etc). There's plenty of loose belly, sagging tits, hanging buttocks and flabby thighs to jiggle around but the elaborate setup and excellent acting skills make up for entertainment. Oh there's a 6P (botherline orgy) and a lesbian scene thrown in there. Normally it'd be a mess but almost 5 hrs is enough to keep a decent pace.
While the number of players aren't really enough for orgy, but that first frame show what's missing in most orgy vid: entangled 4P, not just two or three copulating pairs of 2P. (e.g. second frame shows 3 x 2P.
Finally the vote happens and I haven't even figure out what the actual result was, anywhere there some dramatic talking and then the fest begins. Finally we come to the climatic climax of the film. After a little bit of traditional haymaking of traditional Japanese fest, the robes are disrobed and the ladies started masturbating and quickly devolved into a 10P orgy. It happens at night but thankfully the production budget did provide lighting (often neglected in other outdoor nighttime AV shot) and it was a well-filmed 50-minutes orgy scene. Good job director, actors and crew! In the end it seems the seaweeds and the abalones got together (having shared cocks and sperms) and it's a happy ending. This was again a multi-minutes talking scene offering plenty of dialogs and expressions and showing off acting skills. (think about the 10+ minutes long ending scene in Lord of the Rings after it's all over) The regular masturbator is gonna just pop out the DVD or even fall asleep without ever seeing the the whole scene, but a real writer did sit down to write the dialog, the actresses practiced it, the director and crew did film it (planning camera angles and all that). The ending credits is done in the style of mainstream film with a beautiful traditional-style folk song (most likely not original) and dance.
The BTS shows the the cast and crew preparing and shooting the scenes, especially the non-sex scene. Uncommon for AV, there's a lot of dialog (the ladies have multi-pages scripts) and there's dance lesson (funny to watch male dance coaching the ladies) and the "background" stuffs like costumes, shrine for the final scene etc. The spraying of fake sweat (it was really filmed in the summer, but guess it wasn't sweaty enough). And the usual "we work really hard for this vid, please enjoy" banter. Boring to some people, I get a kick out of the film-making.
Conclusion: this is a GREAT film with lots of sex, but it's not necessarily good porn. If you like granny-porn these are 10 awesome looking grannies. But not for me. A good porn gives an aching erection even before the idol finish undressing and a messy splatter before the stud get into full strokes. This film I enjoy very much but mostly I get only a half-hard-on and I end up switching to another AV for fapping purpose. But as a film-with-sex (sexploitation B-movie), it's fantastic.
@darksider59 Yeah watching is the key word. As women each of them are wonderful enough. Older women are confident and experienced with men. They know how to take a man to heaven (or hell), if they so choose. Each of them would be a dream-wife, for an age-appropriate husband. Or in a brothel, I think I would be satisfied with any of them. Truth is, older, fatter, saggy women often are much better sex partner than young hotties, just turn off the light.
But for a porno, sorry it's just skin deep. Even the wonderful acting I so praised only makes for a good drama, not good fapping aid.
If you found the women sexy enough (not I) then the length is a good thing. 10 idols in a 2 hours vid would be a mess. You can easily watch this as a trilogy (3 x 2hrs) and each part would be a good mutli-idols vid. You will find a lot of satisfaction with many of the scenes.
@silent1one go back and read the whole thread, we have discussed many great orgy vids. Even if you are not great fan of orgies, you should find more than one vid "memorable". E.g. AVOP-119 if you enjoy "All Star Game".
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The only memorable orgy was the s1 Tsubaki one back in 2009 where akiho, rio, and many others were part of except mihiro and sora of that time. I'm more interest in smaller orgy like ideapocket beauty venus and beachy venus featuring more well-known idols. Any recommendation?
Except maybe 2-3, they all have sexy bodies, and enough toned to be attractive. Of course, if you don't like watching mature women, it will not make any difference if their bodies are hot or not.
I don't know if I will take a look at it or not because it's a very long movie.
Exactly what I think.
yes the best and the only one so far from S1, very unfortunate Mihiro, Sora Aoi, and Yua Aida never joined in orgy action
I don't remember the code, I'm not using my own computer right now, I think the best orgy venus are the one with Kaori Maeda and other one with Koisaya
when Rola was with Idea Pocket I wished she will perform in orgy venus too, but it never happened
yes the best and the only one so far from S1, very unfortunate Mihiro, Sora Aoi, and Yua Aida never joined in orgy action
I don't remember the code, I'm not using my own computer right now, I think the best orgy venus are the one with Kaori Maeda and other one with Koisaya
when Rola was with Idea Pocket I wished she will perform in orgy venus too, but it never happened
Rola was a bit too tall compare to the other girls. Aino Kishi got to star in 2 venus series.
The new 3 girls orgy with sakura yura and kojima wasn't good and so is the one with yui hatano, anri okita, and atomi earlier the year.
Mihiro is married now like saori hara and only appear in mainstream movies or toku, but mihiro still appears in the variety show with other av actresses.
Sora, rola, and anri okita focus their career on non-av in China/Taiwan after retirement. Maria ozawa is in the phillipines. Yua Aida is gone.
Aino and Rio casually update their status and hang with current ongoing av stars like akiho(15years soon & only one left from her generation), but girls like ai uehara just fade away. She did accomplish everything you can think of in AV. Wonder if she'll return like serina or sarasa.
which 3 girls orgy that you mean ? I guess not from Idea Pocket ?
Yumi Kazama and Maki Tomoda are from older generation, and they still active, maybe they will hold the record
I think big chance Ai Uehara wold make a comeback someday, she still young
Ai uehara didn't didnt her social media like yua aida and kaera uehara in the past, but is gone like yukiko suo. No updates. Girls that update after retirement are girls that made a comeback, in the entertainment industry like Anri Okita, or casual updater like Rio(tina yuzuki) and Aino Kishi.
Petite girls don't stand a chance after aging. They get cast out again like aging gravure idols. Marica Hase went to L.A after sod dump her. She was going to wait a few years and come back in milf av series, but she found success in America now. Busty girls can still get a lot of opportunities in Asian countries after retirement like Sora aoi, maria ozawa, and yui hatano(think she'll quit soon & she always have multiple release each month nowadays)
Ai Uehara is not petite
there many girls who did not active on social media and made sudden comeback
Serena hakayawa and sarasa hara did, but they only got blogs in the past. Today, av stars wants to get known and studios spam on their twitter, so even retire doesnt mean fading away completely like yua aida era. Maybe ai uehara got a rich businessman to support her. A lot of gold digger out there and Chinese and Taiwanese businessmen pays a lot. You can practically find every genre out there done by ai uehara except milf though.Ai Uehara is not petite
there many girls who did not active on social media and made sudden comeback
yes, but some of them comeback suddenly so I won't surprise if Ai Uehara do it too, she already super famous, no need advertisement from social media
a lot of them retired because they married or have rich man who support her, but when they divorced or loose their sugar daddy many of them will comeback to the industy
Well, I agree. With the Internet history and social media, it's hard to return to live a common life after enjoying a few days of filming and receive a huge paycheck each month. People will recognize you and it's hard to get hired with a av background and no higher education.
Either marry a rich husband, make a come back in av/strip/prostit or go mainstream like mihiro, saori, sora, maria, okita. I think girls like yui hatano, shoko, and yua mikami will leave very soon and follow their footstep since they have a large fanbase in Asia. Even gravure idols like rio uchida, yuuri motrishita, and mikie hara is quite popular in Taiwan.
yes they can work as guest star in movies or tv shows, but if they can get enough offers I think they will try to make comeback
Video game promo, stage show, night club, variety show(shoko, yua, yui, and more, private business party performances(rola, sora, yui), and commercials(yui water bottle). Yui Hatano did all those in the past year or two and still have time to film multiple releases each month. Her celebrity look alike in Taiwan really boost her career and opportunities in other markets.
SOD really took over bus tour orgy from Moodyz, this time they made a much smaller girls group, too bad China Matsuoka already retired, I really wish SOD will continue this series with Iori Kogawa
Yu Shinoda, Nagomi, Mana Sakura are the reason to watch this video
Yu Shinoda, Nagomi, Mana Sakura are the reason to watch this video
I believe group sex is always good. But there's good and there's great, these massive tour bus/royal game/fan appreciation vids are firmly good but not great category. Consider the many great/amazing orgy vids in the past, not a single one is tour bus or royal game. Problem is royal game is so UNspontaneous, it's totally contra to the free and wild spirit of a good orgy.
Well ok good is good. I only recently managed to get SDMU-454 (HD!) and it's definitely fine for more than one fapping sessions. But even amongst tour bus/royal game SDMU-454 is not especially good.
If I were in an orgy, surely I would go postal if I don't get quality fuck in at least three pussies and definitely I have to cum at least twice. The typical participant of a royal game get to ejaculate once and there's no sure promise he would penetrate a pussy or even a mouth. Some of the guys in SDMU-454, I think the most they got was a hand job.
Well ok good is good. I only recently managed to get SDMU-454 (HD!) and it's definitely fine for more than one fapping sessions. But even amongst tour bus/royal game SDMU-454 is not especially good.
If I were in an orgy, surely I would go postal if I don't get quality fuck in at least three pussies and definitely I have to cum at least twice. The typical participant of a royal game get to ejaculate once and there's no sure promise he would penetrate a pussy or even a mouth. Some of the guys in SDMU-454, I think the most they got was a hand job.
I think the other minus point from bus tour / fans appreciation orgy are too much peoples having sex in the same room at the same time, so very difficult to focus and waste many good moments
ZUKO's videos are better, they put only few guys for long duration so they got big chance to fuck and cum more than 1x
don't find new great orgy video yet, I wish something special from Moodyz or studios collaboration special edition. Naomi, Rion, Shiori Kamisaki, Aimi Yoshikawa or Madonna's mature all stars : Maki Hojo, Nozomi Sasayama, Aki Sasaki, Yuna Takase would be awesome
I don't even mind that. As either real life participant (sorry still just a fantasy/bucket list), a film director (also imaginary) or viewer, I don't mind at all that "wasted good moments". To quote Andy Warhol of Men in Black 3 (!?) it's a happening. I.e. it's not Michelangelo's fresco. Just BE it, not every detail must be recorded and replayed. Hey next week we can hold another orgy.
Actually the best scenes of SDMU-454 are the ones with many people having sex at the same time. I just dislike that it's too orderly and orchestrated. If everyone is more free to do what he or she want with whom he or she likes, surely there would be more interesting moments and tensions. (say more than one girl want the some guy with a big cock, or some lame guy can't satisfy his assigned girl). E.g. in an old Magic Mirror Go vid, three top idols (Maria Ozawa was one) offer themselves to a "civilian" who happens to be a huge fan of only one of them. They want to make a 3P or 4P scene and all the idols were naked but the fan boy wouldn't even acknowledge the other two ladies presence. It was hilarious and awesome.
ZUKO did make some good orgy vids. I think we can divide the category to small orgy and grand orgy. Small orgy with 6P-8P, everyone knows each other's names and it's more familiar and orderly. Grand orgy or Roman orgy is with 20P or even more, it's a chaotic situation and it's simultaneously a dating game and group sex.
Some ZUKO vids take this very particular technique: several cameras each follow one girl's "journey" thru the some orgy session. So one 60 mins orgy session become 2+ hours vid, as a lot of "actions" will be repeated but from different camera angle and focus. Certainly no moments are "lost" but IMHO it's a gimmick that sometimes work. I would hate it if every orgy vid is filmed with that mindset.
thanks for mentioned it, beside very difficult to focus and wasted good moments, I dislike too orderly and orchestrated
agree free to do is more fun to watch, Moodyz have tried this concept with trouble maker group (3-4 girls they have their spin off videos from the bako bako bus tour), but its still looks orderly, because they only fuck in their own teritory in the final grand orgy scene
I prefer the camera more focus to favorite girls, and let the less attractive as the background, but its difficult to do in grand orgy situation, and sometimes they shot the less attractive girls more than the real hotties
and sometimes bad decission from cameraman, while Mari Hosokawa did hot cock riding he decided to zoom out and shot Yu Kawakami did lame handjob instead
yes lets divide small orgy and grand orgy
I think grand orgy are more fun to do, but less fun to watch
I think the 4-6 girls orgy are the best to watch, they are fit in one screen, and not wasted many good moments
its great, thats what I like from orgy videos, but agree with you too many videos like that will be boring too