The Underrated or Severely Overrated Porn Stars Or Porn ANYTHING THREAD

[gregorsamsa]

Oh, Maria Nagai is something. I still remember how I felt about Luna Star when I first saw her years ago, and as I understand, a lot of men just automatically mark obviously fake booty with "nothing to see here", and I'm one of them. But it's the west. Japan should be even more against it... maybe. Obviously fake tits and ass... No, thank you

I mean, yes, they can have great skills, charisma etc., but there is something about the dislike of a fake ass that might be more primal than that for the fake tits (i.e. the hips and all that are indicators of child-bearing qualities of a woman, while her breasts are less important as there is less correlation between the size of the breasts and the milk the woman will be able to produce — and the survival of the offspring). Also, I have too many examples of girls with fake tits in the west who are da bomb (at least for me, obviously): Briana Banks (in her younger years), Sunrise Adams, Sophie Dee, to name just a few. But if I see a fake ass, I'm like that old-school Chris Rock: "Get that f...k outta here!" Imma drop-kick a girl with a fake booty

 

[noirzmonster]

Oh, Maria Nagai is something. I still remember how I felt about Luna Star when I first saw her years ago, and as I understand, a lot of men just automatically mark obviously fake booty with "nothing to see here", and I'm one of them. But it's the west. Japan should be even more against it... maybe. Obviously fake tits and ass... No, thank you

I mean, yes, they can have great skills, charisma etc., but there is something about the dislike of a fake ass that might be more primal than that for the fake tits (i.e. the hips and all that are indicators of child-bearing qualities of a woman, while her breasts are less important as there is less correlation between the size of the breasts and the milk the woman will be able to produce — and the survival of the offspring). Also, I have too many examples of girls with fake tits in the west who are da bomb (at least for me, obviously): Briana Banks (in her younger years), Sunrise Adams, Sophie Dee, to name just a few. But if I see a fake ass, I'm like that old-school Chris Rock: "Get that f...k outta here!" Imma drop-kick a girl with a fake booty

Yes I'm okay with fake breasts to some degree like I think Karen Yuzuriha and Eimi Fukada are very attractive but fake butt is too much

 

[Taako]

I can throw in Eimi Fukada. I've only watched one movie with her, NHDTB-359 (just because it's part of one of my favorite BJ series), and I don't remember feeling anything. I mean, I just watched the scenes and that's it, it didn't work as intended (as "fap material", to use the collocation that asianbooblover has reminded me about). Maybe she's just not that great at oral (for me), or maybe she "just doesn't do it" (for me), but considering how much work she's done, she must be popular... But why?

I tried, I think 2-3 years ago to see what's her hype... and its like she is nowhere near a great actress.
She is average. Her movies are average. Her look is average.
She is better than Yua Mikami but...

Definitely another pushed by the studios and her fans, which is okay I guess.

I think not many misses her, although they will say differently.

Oh... I couldn't even fap to her or her movies. Nothing...

I believe she played in a movie with AIKA(I might be wrong)
But guess who outshined her...
Looked better than her(forgive me if this offends)...
And was making me horny...
AIKA!!!

 

[Taako]

Oh, also, I don't want to start another thread because of this but I've just recently found out about Shinoda Yu's retirement (haven't noticed that myself as she hasn't been one of my go-to's in JAV), and there was this expression in the article: "addicted to cowgirls". What the hell does that mean?

I guess we could count this question as another example of "(Japanese) porn fans are ruining the JAV industry"

Yes, but to be honest, Yuu and many other porn stars has been quiet "quitting" in the industry for years!
Even before it became known as "quiet quitting".

Many don't do the "Retirement" thing anymore and just stop accepting roles,
through their agents or whatever.

Fans, are just wondering in many cases or see a rumour on the internet.

As for that article, it's hard to know what's true.
Was it online bullying? Was it because she's getting older and less good roles?
Was it a money issue? Was it something/someone at the studio, costar(s), etc, etc.

Honestly, it's difficult to know.

 

[headcrusher]

Natsuki Kaoru/Tsubaki Katō

She has one of those faces I call "with personality". Mature but at the same time young, elegant and at the same time casual.




It's not like she's not getting work to do, but it surprises me she doesn't makes more videos.

 

[Taako]

Another personal favorite of mines who I rediscover" years ago...
Yuma Asami.
SEVERELY UNDERRATED!!!
Of course she has made many movies.
Of course she was well known doing her time with fans and their appreciation of her.

But she is a great actress. She is not overly beautiful but sexy for her look.
Her body is awesome and looks real.
She gives great sex performances.

And I will say compare to Ayumi Shinoda... she is the better actress but its close imo

 

[vesania999]

98% of most popular japanese pornstars are highly overrated.

I've seen Yu Shinoda, Yui Hatano, Yuma Asami and lots of them and still don't understand why they are so popular.

regular acting, normal looking body (nothing to brag about), cute face (not sexy or slutty) and that's it.

that's why I go to less known or amateur-is women. voluptuous bodies, slutty faces and waaaay better at sex that the most popular idols.

 

[vesania999]

• Japanese customers are ruining JAV by wanting the youngest girls possible, not giving a lot of chance to those older ones — or quickly losing interest for those who stay in JAV for long (thus, JAV becomes like a conveyor belt, with the "goods" on it having very short shelf life)

well, yes and no. is a generational thing, sadly and not only in japan.

we are seeing less movies with kinky or silly scenarios and more of glamorous, young, less perverted things. the shota movies are great example. back then we got some perverted, sometimes barely legal themes.... now they look like the same age and some of the "old women" are your typical "old sister" boring thing.

I miss those cheap porn pro/amateur sites. normal looking dudes banging normal looking gals (some big tits and fat asses if we were lucky). now is all clean and perfect and instagram-like wannabe models and pretty face/buff guys.

 

[Taako]

98% of most popular japanese pornstars are highly overrated.

No offense, trying to include some type of numerical value to your opinion
is useless when you have no real evidence to support it.

BUT if you have any real numbers, it would be fun to debate it.

I've seen Yu Shinoda, Yui Hatano, Yuma Asami and lots of them and still don't understand why they are so popular.

So because you don't understand it means they shouldn't be popular?

Don't think I'm being mean, but your statements have been low energy.
They offer nothing to discussed or debate about the thread topic.

regular acting, normal looking body (nothing to brag about), cute face (not sexy or slutty) and that's it.

that's why I go to less known or amateur-is women. voluptuous bodies, slutty faces and waaaay better at sex that the most popular idols.

Basically, you're saying your pick is better than the next guy...
who thinks his might be better than your lol
It's low energy posting again.

 

[Taako]

well, yes and no. is a generational thing, sadly and not only in japan.

we are seeing less movies with kinky or silly scenarios and more of glamorous, young, less perverted things. the shota movies are great example. back then we got some perverted, sometimes barely legal themes.... now they look like the same age and some of the "old women" are your typical "old sister" boring thing.

This is not true.
Jav offers more variety for any type you like.
If you can't find something "different" than you are not searching.

I miss those cheap porn pro/amateur sites. normal looking dudes banging normal looking gals (some big tits and fat asses if we were lucky). now is all clean and perfect and instagram-like wannabe models and pretty face/buff guys.

Those site had to grow and move on to keep making money.
Clearly not enough interest was there... IF what you say is true and they are gone.

 

[Taako]

I think Madonna has become overrated as a studio of late.
I like they have some good models who look and act like milfs.
I hate they some bad models who looks are based on their bust sizes and...
their performances are lackluster.

Bad model Ai Kano pic one.
Just a plastic surgery nightmare. And a horrible actress.
I'm ok with fake boobs but her looks a mess.
So horrible she can't be seen as an decent actress even in her performances.

Good model Yuna Shiina pic two.
Natural. Great performances, true legend, etc etc

 

[Taako]

Too many boring series that have been going on for so long, I mean enough already with the "sharing a room with my pervert boss" and "father-in-law fucking the daughter-in-law without his son knowing."

I missed this the first time and you have a valid point.

I think I overlook it because it sounds like a "gripe".
And this forum has an excellent Gripe thread
created by @ding73ding https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/gripe-of-the-month.2101175/
Where you can really talk about your gripes if you have more.

I will say I ignore those series because they no longer interest me, because its the same old guy.
And that means old guy Toru Ozawa he's even in the "perverted boss series" too. Yikes.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Taako went berserk answering vesania999
I was like

I think Madonna has become overrated as a studio of late.

I don't know if my perception is correct but I feel that Madonna is very much a vanilla studio betting a lot on big (both in terms of popularity and curves) actresses like Julia
I might be totally wrong, but that's the kind of perception I have for some reason

So, they will naturally be... too bland for most of here? Writing that, I assume, of course, that the majority of users here have gone past vanilla in their preferences. And I would say that in the West, this might be true. But I don't have any proof, Taako-san

Like, if you ask me to name some of the other studios I know (by memory, so no looking anywhere except for checking if I'm correct about the studio name and not mixing up the studio and one of its labels) and give a short impression of each... Note beforehand that I'm mostly interested in oral stuff in JAV, so...

• Natural HIgh — lots of creativity, quality filming, but nothing "too extreme"
• Hunter — possibly the best choice for those who don't want "plain vanilla" but something like "vanilla with topping"; I feel that it says a lot
• DANDY — possibly one of the top studios, with quite creative works in different situations, from household stuff, to hospitals, to flight cabins (I personally feel that they focus a lot on the nursing stuff, which I love — or maybe I just watch the nursing stuff mostly, hence the distorted perception; also, I would say that if SOD and DANDY weren't different studios, I would not be surprised: I mean, their stuff feels very similar to me)
• Radix (NEO and GUN labels among others) — now this one might be not that creative in terms of "large-scale projects" (compared to Rockets etc.) but they are definitely not vanilla; they're more like hardcore gonzo in the West; niche stuff
• Rocket — lots of creativity, gave me a lot of "that's-Japan-they're-mad boners"; possibly a big studio, big budgets and projects
• SOD — possibly one of the giants, lots of creativity as well, big budgets, top actresses, huge projects
• Real Works — possibly one of the best studios in terms of overall "quality feel" of their titles; clearly more on the fetish side but doesn't feel "too extreme"
• Office K's — possibly a bigger studio as well, has a lot of long-running series in lots of labels, lots of quality oral stuff
• SPC (aka asfur) — a niche studio for all of those who love gokkun and oral in general
• Sex Agent — specializes in oral as well, I feel; lots of titles, but very many of them might just be compilations as the study in my thread linked below shows; even if they're just compiling stuff, they are also quite creative
• Fitch — the "glamorous" one, high-quality works but not much niche stuff, more like gonzo but with style
• Waap — more like niche, quality oral stuff
• Janesu — same, kinda niche, lots of oral stuff as well

I'm sure that I missed a lot of big names, but these are the ones I was able to remember without looking at any lists. I would say that if we're talking about creativity and really high quality, I would nominate the following to the top 5, not in any particular order: SOD, Rocket, Real Works, Office K's, Natural High. And if we're talking about the niche stuff, clearly, the top 3 would be: Radix, SPC, Sex Agent (the last one I would call niche simply because of the number of themes it covers, from armpit licking to cumming on all kinds of clothes)

Obviously, nominating based on an incomplete list is also outrageous, but I feel that it's still interesting to share our views on that

P.S. I noticed that I wanted to write something more about the DANDY studio, that's why there was a "hanging" comma there; so, I have now filled that "gap"

 

[asianbooblover]

gregorsamsa- thanks, great synopsis of what these studios offer​

 

[asianbooblover]

Granted- in your opinion, but a good idea of what you might expect

 

[Taako]

Taako went berserk answering vesania999
I was like

I hope i didn't because that wasn't my intention lol
I just felt he wasn't making any point but was trying to appear factual w/o no proof.
Do you know what I mean? haha
I wasn't trying to stop his opinions.

I don't know if my perception is correct but I feel that Madonna is very much a vanilla studio betting a lot on big (both in terms of popularity and curves) actresses like Julia
I might be totally wrong, but that's the kind of perception I have for some reason.

I believe this is accurate.
I'm not a hardcore/ntr/ra*pe fan of such genres but...
I do like the actresses to be willing to do more than someone like Julia.

So, they will naturally be... too bland for most of here?

I wouldn't say most because well, those titles and genre is popular.
And we don't know everyone here...taste, right?

Writing that, I assume, of course, that the majority of users here have gone past vanilla in their preferences. And I would say that in the West, this might be true. But I don't have any proof, Taako-san

No proof as you say. Which is why I never try to say "everyone" because we might think so
and in reality, it could be the opposite.

Like, if you ask me to name some of the other studios I know (by memory, so no looking anywhere except for checking if I'm correct about the studio name and not mixing up the studio and one of its labels) and give a short impression of each... Note beforehand that I'm mostly interested in oral stuff in JAV, so...

• Natural HIgh — lots of creativity, quality filming, but nothing "too extreme"
• Hunter — possibly the best choice for those who don't want "plain vanilla" but something like "vanilla with topping"; I feel that it says a lot
• DANDY — possibly one of the top studios,
• Radix (NEO and GUN labels among others) — now this one might be not that creative in terms of "large-scale projects" (compared to Rockets etc.) but they are definitely not vanilla; they're more like hardcore gonzo in the West; niche stuff
• Rocket — lots of creativity, gave me a lot of "that's-Japan-they're-mad boners"; possibly a big studio, big budgets and projects
• SOD — possibly one of the giants, lots of creativity as well, big budgets, top actresses, huge projects
• Real Works — possibly one of the best studios in terms of overall "quality feel" of their titles; clearly more on the fetish side but doesn't feel "too extreme"
• Office K's — possibly a bigger studio as well, has a lot of long-running series in lots of labels, lots of quality oral stuff
• SPC (aka asfur) — a niche studio for all of those who love gokkun and oral in general
• Sex Agent — specializes in oral as well, I feel; lots of titles, but very many of them might just be compilations as the study in my thread linked below shows; even if they're just compiling stuff, they are also quite creative
• Fitch — the "glamorous" one, high-quality works but not much niche stuff, more like gonzo but with style
• Waap — more like niche, quality oral stuff
• Janesu — same, kinda niche, lots of oral stuff as well

I think you have define them well... at least to the ones I'm familiar with.
I'm sure others might agree or disagree and I would like to know how they see their favorite studios as well.

For example, I like your take on ROC/ROCKET studio.
I would add for me, they are more about the creative than the sex.
They are madlads and give you "Only In Japan" feelings. You describe it perfectly.

I'm sure that I missed a lot of big names, but these are the ones I was able to remember without looking at any lists. I would say that if we're talking about creativity and really high quality, I would nominate the following to the top 5, not in any particular order: SOD, Rocket, Real Works, Office K's, Natural High. And if we're talking about the niche stuff, clearly, the top 3 would be: Radix, SPC, Sex Agent (the last one I would call niche simply because of the number of themes it covers, from armpit licking to cumming on all kinds of clothes)

Obviously, nominating based on an incomplete list is also outrageous, but I feel that it's still interesting to share our views on that

If I had to pick a studio(s) I like overall its would be Bibian, Natural High, SOD(SoftOnDemand), and Rocket.
Sometimes Hunter and the label KTRA.

 

[gregorsamsa]

If I had to pick a studio(s) I like overall its would be Bibian

I don't think I've watched any of their stuff. I've checked some of the covers now, and it seems that they do only lesbian stuff. Which would explain why I haven't watched it

 

[Taako]

I don't think I've watched any of their stuff. I've checked some of the covers now, and it seems that they do only lesbian stuff. Which would explain why I haven't watched it

haha they are strictly lesbian.
Some of their vids are more erotic, hotter, and better acted than some of the regular titles.

 

[gregorsamsa]

I see. It's interesting to have a whole studio that's 100% lesbian. Then again, there are dozens of studios in the US that only do gay porn I guess. They do what they like, so it's natural. I just never thought about it

 

[Taako]

I see. It's interesting to have a whole studio that's 100% lesbian. Then again, there are dozens of studios in the US that only do gay porn I guess. They do what they like, so it's natural. I just never thought about it

Np.
Its all good.
Its why I reply to vesania999, not harshly, about Jav many types of movies that aren't "vanilla".
It just has to be searched imo.