Uncensored jav and censored jav

[vincent_z]

It is not as though some JAV studios do not release uncensored videos or that uncensored videos are subsequently mosaiced and cleared through an ethics bureau.
I recall seeing a listing for a few "MAX Airline" AVs on an uncensored JAV sell-through site.
On my last trip to Osaka, Japan in March, I found / bought two videos originally "released"? on the uncensored website 99bb . com which had now been mosaiced, cleared thru JEJA, and sold at Don Quijote. They were QQBB-002 and QQBB-004. I will offer there is likely a QQBB-001 and QQBB-003.

 

[Inertia]

QQBB-002 = some western adult video movie? Searching for it shows me a cover starring a 'Ms. Riley' released in Japan by Center Village. There's a few domestic studios that import foreign porn for domestic sales (PLUM and MOMOTARO come to mind though I'm pretty sure they're owned by the same parent company). They add the mosaic in and then sell it told men in video stores. Their customer base are these people who are still internet shy.

 

[Hans Kowalski]

I always imagine the main reason Japan won't get rid of mosaics is because really, what politician wants to put himself out there, like "You know, censored porn just doesn't do it for me anymore, so here's what should be on our agenda...".

Also, Ai Uehara's uncensored releases were the only good ones I've ever seen and they were kinda middle-of-the-road compared to her entire movie catalogue. Not her best, not her worst.

 

[Inertia]

Mosaic will stay so long as ethics companies remain and since they're staffed by retired police officers with connections (amakudari), don't expect things to change any time soon. Be happy though that Japanese AV can produce titles with so much variety. Even if you don't like it, it's respectable and commendable to see big-name studios shooting scat and r*** titles with famous actresses. Other than Japan, scat at least is much more amateurish. Incest titles are another thing that Japan does best. Everything in the west is 'step-fathers', 'step-mothers', etc., and it's not the studios fault, but the banks that back the payment processors. They don't want to be sued for 'obscenity' so they outright ban some of the more questionable genres to play it safe. It really sucks and I think it's one of the reasons why adult video in the west may be at times better than AV when it comes to the latest production technology, but lacks aplenty when it comes to themes and expansiveness (you rarely see western studios churning out 2+ hour titles--instead it's just scenes though some now are testing out episodic formats).

 

[ding73ding]

There are more than a few known cases of "proper" (non-Western) uncensored JAV getting the mosaic and quietly released as censored, legal "mainstream" JAV. A recent one was exposed in this forum just a couple months ago, unfortunately I can't remember which one. (I'm beating my head for not linking that post to this thread back when I saw it) I'm pretty sure it involved a non-unknown JAV idol, someone I reviewed here? Ayumi Shinoda? Orinhara? Anju Akane? Maybe daily masturbation caused bad memory.

Anyway... it does exists that once in a while (more than 1% but definitely less than 5%) an uncensored JAV will end up also in the legit censored section. But it's definitely a fringe practice, as mentioned enough times, uncensored production typically is lower quality in the girls, theme/story, and production value. So 95% of uncensored vids, once with mosaic put on, is deemed completely un-competitive in the censored marketplace. So bad that whatever extra money you get from sales in the legit channels may not cover the cost of applying the mosaic (plus re-design of DVD cover, new DVD code, admin+bureaucratic costs) .

Anyway... that some uncensored end up as censored doesn't matter to most ppl who want to discuss this issue. Because they are hoping for something that doesn't exist: mainstream censored JAV getting released without mosaic. That just doesn't happen.

 

[Inertia]

I think the RED CAT label/studio's output is all uncensored JAV titles released in Japan w/ mosaic. I don't have the URL handy to confirm though.

There was one interesting case of an uncensored release being released in Japan from a few years ago: it was a title I think done by DREAMROOM and shot possibly as a joint-venture. The Japanese version of this title featured a new scene (enema-themed I think) that was not found in the uncensored version. I think this is a really cool practice and a great way to introduce 'uncensored' movies for those who live in Japan and want to buy them physically at their local video stores (ie, with mosaic). It almost echoes how Japanese versions of music albums feature the 'Japan edition bonus song'.

 

[Supmop]

Anyway... it does exists that once in a while (more than 1% but definitely less than 5%) an uncensored JAV will end up also in the legit censored section. But it's definitely a fringe practice, as mentioned enough times, uncensored production typically is lower quality in the girls, theme/story, and production value. So 95% of uncensored vids, once with mosaic put on, is deemed completely un-competitive in the censored marketplace. So bad that whatever extra money you get from sales in the legit channels may not cover the cost of applying the mosaic (plus re-design of DVD cover, new DVD code, admin+bureaucratic costs) .

agree

I do know 1 video that released in both censsored and uncenssored, don't know which one that released first, but the girls are pretty enough (Runa Anzai, Nami Itoshino) so worth it to released it in 2 versions

Anyway... that some uncensored end up as censored doesn't matter to most ppl who want to discuss this issue. Because they are hoping for something that doesn't exist: mainstream censored JAV getting released without mosaic. That just doesn't happen.

+1

 

[Barthoi]

I only regret, and I deeply regret,that Kaho Kasumi has not done any uncensored movie in her career.

 

[Hans Kowalski]

Yo, Inertia, I have a little request for you, if it's not too much to ask.

So, a while ago it was brought up that the reason that Shizuka Kanno left the industry a couple of years ago was, that an AV company sold her movies uncensored overseas which she specifically was against. Here's the last entry from her old blog, from 2012.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kannoshizuka/archives/65804403.html

If you run the text through Google Translate, it looks like there's some truth to this, but then, using Google Translate for japanese - english almost never works. I'm not asking for a full translation here, just a quick conformation if that's really what the blog entry was about and if that was her reason for quitting back then. Does she give any reasons as to what's bothering her about uncensored porn, if that's really the case?

 

[Inertia]

Interesting blog entry and really neat to see an AV star address mosaic vs non-mosaic. It’s a first for me!

I’m going to sum up the salient part since I don’t have the time for a direct translation:

OK, let’s see, she seems a bit annoyed/let-down because for her, there’s a certain way she feels she should look (better attention to nail care was brought up) with mosaic-free titles. There’s also another way she should be acting since there’s no mosaic to cover up certain areas (better tongue usage for example).

I don’t know her history and the blog post doesn’t talk about a specific title, but it does seem like something slipped through the cracks and was released abroad without mosaic. She doesn’t mention it being a leak so I assume it was by the books but behind her back.

That’s the basic gist of it.

 

[Inertia]

In terms of legality (some of the commenters on her blog brought this up), it’s hard to say whether it’s totally illegal or not. Selling uncensored IN Japan of course is illegal, but outside of the country it’s not. Did her contract with the agency and studio explicitly say the titles will have mosaic applied? I’m no lawyer, but unless they mentioned that or had some text saying the titles will be released according to Japanese laws regarding obscenity, she may not have much of a case. It’s very sneaky by the agency if this is what really happened and would definitely lead to some higher-ups being blacklisted.

 

[Supmop]

I only regret, and I deeply regret,that Kaho Kasumi has not done any uncensored movie in her career.

she could release her uncenssored video later

its more common now that some already retired JAV actresses release uncenssored video suddenly few months or few years after their retirement

 

[Inertia]

With the industry as it is now, never assume an actress is totally retired until she does an uncensored title. It's her $30,000USD+ insurance safety net in case her post-retirement dreams do not pan out.

 

[Supmop]

talking about girls who worked in both censsored and uncenssored videos

I feel these 4 was performed better in their uncenssored videos : Yu Aine, Kana Kawai, Runa Sezaki, Aya Fuji

 

[Supmop]

just got a happy news after I checked the new update for uncenssored videos, finally we'll get new big orgy video

Rion Ichijou, Sara Saijou and Yume Mitsuki surely a must watch (at least for me)

 

[ding73ding]

Yo SMD-161 looks good. Did you find a HD source (SMBD-161)? I got the Carib-081616-232 FHD no-watermark version. AWESOME. Looks SMD-161 is update of RHJ-191 Red Hot Jam 191 Summer Girls (also uncensored) from 1991.

I'm gonna grab Carib-082516-001 Manko (pussy) Inspection Catalogue. Looks like the two vids make up the 120 minutes of SMD-116.

 

[ding73ding]

Another set of orgy vids just dropped:
10MU-081116-01 Uniform JK Hot Spring Amateur Grand Orgy Part 1
10MU-081716-01 Uniform JK Hot Spring Amateur Grand Orgy Part 2



The plot is a bit more than minimal, 4 female students went to a hot spring resort (why are they wearing school uniforms to resort? Why for you fapping pleasure of course) and for some Japanese reason the managers made them share a room with four dudes who are already in the middle of their booze and feast. The girls accept the generous offers of drinks and foods and after a round or two, the drinking games begin and at first it's pretty innocent, just a friendly hug and tougue kissing. Then it gets more risque (of course) and soon all the girls are having their pussy licked and the guys get blow jobs and then the party moved to the bath of the establishment. The shame is that the girls came here for a hot spring experience but they still have to wear half of their school uniform and barely get into the water. Mostly they are just fucked and irrumated.

Part 2, as cover photo suggested has the girls changed out of their school uniform into school swimsuits (again WHY? Why school swimsuit for a bath?). The changing scene is not bad and the rest of the vid is pretty similar, the girls hardly get to enjoy the bath, they are just molested, fucked and irrumated in their school swimsuits, first in the change room then in the bed room.

The orgy action is pretty decent. For an onsen theme, I'd wish there's more soaking and relaxing and warming up to nudity and sex. But there's a recent censored vid that does pretty good in that theme so this is uncensored and a bit different.

The girls, as you might expect in uncensored aren't top class hotties, but they are easy enough to look at, esp. for orgy vid. Only 2 of the 4 girls are cute and convincing as JK, one girl is obviously an older lady (looks like 38), and one girl is only somewhat mature (looks like 28).

I am not a fan of school uniforms, unless they come off quickly. These vids have the girl keep the uniform on for a bit too long. Anyway it makes no sense at all have the girls wear these boring cloths to an onsen. They should wear vacation cloths and for the changing scene, have they change into bikinis (and lots of chance for the girls to talk about and play around with the swimsuits).

The reason the uniform stays half-on even after the action has went well past second base, third base and home base, is obviously a sub-set of fans who are turned on by school uniform. Especially the very boring unsexy school swimsuit. Who get turned on by it? Only boys who recently went to high school or even still attending high school in Japan. Cherry boys.
or it could be even worse... could be creepy pedophile old man

 

[ding73ding]

RED-197 (2015-03-18)
レッドホットフェティッシュコレクション Vol.111 : 美咲結衣
Red Hot Fetish Collection Vol.111: Yui Misaki

Also released as 1Pondo-081815-137 (part 1) and 1Pondo-101315-170 (part 2).


I didn't know Yui Misaki before, but (checking) she is a legit AV idol with over 200 censored vids under her belt. So she may not be top ranked but for the uncensored would, she can qualify as celebrity/idol.

The cover looks good doesn't it? But do those tits hold up in the vid as well as the cover? They do, I'm pleased to tell you. I'm pretty sure they were surgically enhanced but it was done well enough.

Also the cover promised "Two Holes Creampie" and quite a bit of S&M. Actually it's the uncensored anal that make it a must-get for me. Well they do delivered on the promise but only just. According to SOP, JAV (censored or uncensored) never over-deliver a promise. All the promised elements are there, but don't expect too much. Wait... correction, there's no rope bondage in the whole vid. So the rope part is a bit of false advertising.

Part one was pretty standard all sex vid, scene 1 had Yui suck and hand job two guys. Scene 2 was one-on-one sex scene, with a "bonus" of the guy sticking a finger up her asshole. She pissed during the sex also, if you like that.

Part two is supposed to be the S&M part.
Scene 1 (a shorter scene) had her standing up against a jail cell and molested by two guys. But she was only holding the jail bars by her own hands, never tied up. The scene ends with her pissing under the stimulation of vibrator. She has no bladder control, it just come out as big stream. The frame below proves positive that the liquid squirted out of her urethra, it's either simple piss or clean water pre-pumped into her bladder before the scene.

Scene 2: she puts on the leather costume from the cover and molested by two guys. They spend a long time using several sex toys. Personally I think it's boring to watch man-on-woman dildo especially with two meat-cocks available, why use rubber cocks??? Anyway finally we get to some real sex: sucking and fucking. While Miss Misaki kindly sucked both guys when it comes to fucking, it's mostly one-at-a-time. There were a bit of DP... eh... maybe I should be much more positive. It's desperately uncommon to see proper DP action, especially uncensored. It's awesome by JAV standard, I might even say; but by European standard, it's only decent.

The final frame below shows how pathetic JAV cocks can look, the guy is an impressive looking heavy man, but his cock looks like a underdeveloped boy! Well ok it's a particularly unkind selected frame, he just ejaculated in an asshole and pulled out, so yeah I understand he's shrunk a bit. (the DP frame shows it's not a laughable little boy peepee) But gosh that is one embarrassing frame.



About the pissing, I don't mind it, pissing is pleasurable, especially on video urine doesn't stink. But the way it's filmed in JAV, 99% of the time pissing is not enhancing the sex. If the multiple pissing in this vid is supposed to be female ejaculation (actually I'm pretty sure that's the director's intention) than it's an epic fail. Yui has no bladder control and it's not fooling anyone.

Summary: it's a good vid, not great not amazing, but quite worth watching. Uncensored, DP, creampie, good messy slimy blow jobs too (not that I'm a qualified judge of that).

Final thought: someone else participate in this thread please??

 

[Supmop]

Final thought: someone else participate in this thread please??

too bad there are rare orgy uncenssored videos

Mikuni Maisaki, Hinata Tachibana, Kokone Mizutani are very rare to performed in censsored orgy video, would be awesome if they work together in uncenssored orgy video

Minako Komukai, Rio Hamasaki and Honoka Orihara uncenssored would be awesome

 

[ding73ding]

I don't know anyone can give you a satisfactory answer.

One possible angle is that Japan (like most countries but not the USA) isn't a real rule-of-law country. What you suggest may be feasible in a purely legal sense, but if illegal (pre-mosiac) version of legal vids (major studios like S1, Moodyz, Prestige) appear in Japan, even if technically the major studios are un-convictable, the authority still have many ways to punish them.

If you think about it, even Hollywood (much bigger companies, much deeper pockets) can't prevent leaks (zero-day releases by pirate groups) (and even the US gov/political party can't stop leaking) but yet amazing the AV producers managed to keep pre-mosiac'ed vids from leaking, there's damn tight security that's well beyond normal rule-of-law law enforcement.

Let's be thankful we have what we have now... I just realize Japanese authority can easily damage DRP and other existing uncensored studio by punishing any famous idols (Ayumi Shinoda, Ai Uehara, e.g.) who cross over and make uncensored vids.