Why is porn so rampant in Japan?

sergeidragunov

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Why is porn so rampant in Japan? I mean there are many JAV idols. Thousands I think.

I mean, porn is already commonplace in Japan.

And I'm wondering why?

well my answer is because most Japanese girls are beautiful that's why...and they get paid big time.


Just tell me if this is a nonsense topic, so that the mods can close this thread.

Just wondering ok?
 

aquamarine

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Mar 19, 2007
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It's not really rampant.

There are twice as many porn stars in the USA than there is in Japan. "What about the amateurs????" Well my reply to a question like that: just look at all the amateur porn coming from the USA... Girls Gone Wild, Gonzo Porn, BangBus (when not featuring used-up twenty-somethings acting as teenagers), etc etc etc.

I alone in my home city convinced eleven women to model nude for me and six of them were willing to do video if I paid them. See? Japan just hardly any amateur and even pro porn compared to Japan.
 

cattz

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It's not really rampant.

There are twice as many porn stars in the USA than there is in Japan. "What about the amateurs????" Well my reply to a question like that: just look at all the amateur porn coming from the USA... Girls Gone Wild, Gonzo Porn, BangBus (when not featuring used-up twenty-somethings acting as teenagers), etc etc etc.

I alone in my home city convinced eleven women to model nude for me and six of them were willing to do video if I paid them. See? Japan just hardly any amateur and even pro porn compared to Japan.

Well, girls gone wild is usually either drunk/drugged up/underage girls, pornstars, or escorts as pointed out by the many court cases against him, which stated most all of them where setup, and the few that weren't where underaged and got him in trouble.

All that bangbrothers type stuff is also far from amateur, just pornstars under different names, all of them. I remember spoofing a site and looking at the webcam listing (camz.com) of shows, had a girl people recognized from the bangbus site who was laughing that anybody thought it was amateur, and bitched about how much she got payed compared to a normal porn.

Anyways, I think even asking that modeling question would get me arrested here in the u.s. asap, heh.
 

aquamarine

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Why would it get you arrested? You're not asking for sex. You're not asking for prostitution. You're asking for a woman to model for you, you could just as well ask a man to model for you too.
 

aquamarine

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Still doesn't change the fact.
 

aldof.hilter

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Before I proceed let me tell you beforehand that I am not really agree with the japanese culture view on sexuality, but I will write as objective as possible, hopely to answer question asked: Why is porn so rampant in japan.

Well, the fact is, how the japanese look at sex is quite different from the rest of us who mostly live in a western countries. It's their culture that sees sexual need as just another need that has to be channeled.

Both the men and the girls, they consider sex is just another daily need like, say, their need of food. When you're in japan, it is not strange to see a man riding on the subway reading porn. Also in bookshops, people don't feel shy to browse porn magazine / photobook. It's not strange to see someone drinking coke on the subway, correct?

Some people consider the Japanese are immoral, because they choose to let loose their sexual need freely. As we all know, the western countries tried to push japanese to take action on the porn which involve those below 18yo. The problem is that the westerners tried to judge Japanses culture by comparing to the western culture. This is unfair, because we cannot judge other culture by comparing to ours.

Thus, I think it's the best for all of us to let the japanese to decide how to channel their sexual need...
 

Axandra

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@ aquamarine

How come it doesn't change the facts? You can't look at this kind of social aspects from the point of view of absolute numbers.

So you've got X number of performers for Japan's 127.43 million and a Y number for USA's 305.75 million and you tell me that there are twice as many porn stars in USA? That's almost a 1 byte piece of information the way you put it.

What you have to show is that the number of porn performers (star being a somewhat relative word) in USA makes up a double percentage of the population compared to that of Japan. Then I'll be able to size the eventual differences.

Otherwise, the way you put it, the whole 50 population of Pitcairn Islands could be shooting porn round the clock and this wouldn't make porn "rampant" in the mentioned state.
 

loginname

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Nov 30, 2007
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Yeah - Pitcairn Islands have really bad statistical values.
50% of the male adults are convicted sex offenders.
Japan is an innocent paradise compared to Pitcairn Islands ;)
 

Amerikajinmusume

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Jun 25, 2008
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Why is porn so rampant in the USA?

That should really be the question here since America has a larger adult industry with even more money tied up in it.

The cost of porn in Japan is ridiculous. Something like $35+ per DVD when you would pay half that price for the same thing in the US. The cost of production is relatively the same, but the demand on the market isn't in comparison to larger countries like the USA.

I've yet to meet a Japanese guy who actually watches JAV. Not because he doesn't want to watch it, or is too embarassed to admit watching it, but because it is so expensive there even by Japanese standards. Most guys have other things they would rather spend their money on than an embarrassment. Gosh, and do they find it embarrassing! Good luck trying to get a Japanese guy to actually watch a porno with you or something.

I don't think we realize just how common it is in the US for people to watch and even discuss porn with each other, like we're doing right now on this forum. Despite how open Japan is about advertising adult material and making it easily available, we're really much more liberal regarding this subject in the west. Porn in the US is now a socially accepted cultural norm. I don't know if the same can really be said about Japan.
 

CoolKevin

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I wouldn't have thought it was more rampant there than most other places where it is legal, I think europe would be more porn rampant
 

Kenpachi God

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well like most countries that are not the U.S they have more leway than we [america] allow so to some one in the states it seems like a epidimic of porn there
 

soletta

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I think the key thing that creates the idea that porn is rampant in Japan is that the porn is very visible. In terms of availability and distribution, I agree that it does seem rampant because while in other countries there are usually specialist shops that deal with adult goods and porno, in Japan it is normal for any bookstore or video stores to carry adult material in an obvious manner.

In most convenience stores for example, the porno rack is next to the rack for normal magazines (although there is usually an age restriction warning). Bookstores and video/DVD/VCD rental shops usually have a segregated adult section. Smaller bookstores in residential areas in large cities also sell adult material.

Another point is the popularity of Japanese porn not just in Japan but also overseas. As Japan has a roaring porn industry, the volume of AV being produced creates the idea that porn is rampant in Japan. Since so much is being made, and so much of it is in Japanese only, Japanese must be consuming it.

The cost of porn in Japan is ridiculous. Something like $35+ per DVD when you would pay half that price for the same thing in the US. The cost of production is relatively the same, but the demand on the market isn't in comparison to larger countries like the USA.

Porn in Japan might seem expensive, but the fact remains that there are many Japanese who actually buy porn DVDs and magazines rather than just download everything. For those who aren't into buying videos, renting is much cheaper and easily available. I would argue that there is a huge demand for porn independent of the price of production.

I have yet to meet a Japanese guy who actually watches JAV. Not because he doesn't want to watch it, or is too embarassed to admit watching it, but because it is so expensive there even by Japanese standards. Most guys have other things they would rather spend their money on than an embarrassment. Gosh, and do they find it embarrassing! Good luck trying to get a Japanese guy to actually watch a porno with you or something.

I disagree strongly. I have yet to meet a Japanese guy who doesn't think watching some JAV is normal. They do of course point out that too much of anything is bad, but all the Japanese I have met say, yes it's normal to watch AV. On the other hand, I never pressed them to reveal what porn they watched or like, since it was no business of mine. I wouldn't say that it is very prevalent for guys in the US to gather and watch pornos and jack off either. Whether in Japan or the USA, most people masturbate in private.

I don't think we realize just how common it is in the US for people to watch and even discuss porn with each other, like we're doing right now on this forum. Despite how open Japan is about advertising adult material and making it easily available, we're really much more liberal regarding this subject in the west. Porn in the US is now a socially accepted cultural norm. I don't know if the same can really be said about Japan.

Japanese people are usually very private. Close friends or AV fans might discuss the latest porn or what they like, but there is no reason for them to reveal such 'sensitive' information to anyone else. Japanese people are also especially sensitive to the fact that their country is perceived as being somehow sexually depraved due to the relative visibility of porn and are thus likely to be careful about the topic when speaking to foreigners.

Japanese people do not deny that AV exists, and the wide availability of AV arguably mean that it qualifies as 'normal'. I believe that for the Japanese AV is a fact of life, but the cultural norm for them is that it is a topic that is not for public discussion. A culture of being conservative about talking about sex is something that is common to many countries. Behavior is not always an accurate indicator of attitude.
 

daredemonai

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As someone who has lived in Japan a long time (and speaks/reads/writes Japanese), I can vouch for what soletta says. I would only add that while Japanese porn may seem expensive to non-Japanese, Japan generally has a high cost of living, and compared with other non-porn Japanese DVDs, the pricing of JAV is not unusual.
 

aquamarine

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Yepper, high cost of living comes with making more money. I'm able to charge three to four times more for what I do compared to back in Canada where if I'm doing something like a wedding, I'd be lucky to pull out $3-4000. Here, there is more disposable income and people typically make higher wages than back in North America, or rather Canada at the very least.
 

vincent_z

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Why shouldn't it be?

As someone who has lived in Japan a long time (and speaks/reads/writes Japanese), I can vouch for what soletta says. I would only add that while Japanese porn may seem expensive to non-Japanese, Japan generally has a high cost of living, and compared with other non-porn Japanese DVDs, the pricing of JAV is not unusual.
If you take some time, and shop around, you will find good deals on JAVs. Each Book Off shop has a rack of AVs, many priced at ¥500 or less.
Don Quijote has big selections of AVs, many from Hayabusa, in shrink-wrapped packs (3 / ¥999 or 5 / ¥1,480).