Gripe of the month

[Taako]

I will used the photo below as a "Gripe example" for mosiac, pixels, censor, or whatever.
As I stated before, I do not mind mosiac or whatever its call. In fact, I support it.

What I do hate is how messy it can become. Now to be fair, the pictures is from a video made in 2012. Still you could used software to blur faces and even small areas. So I offer little to no excuses to this botch job and even the ones 2023.

This is such a f**ck up editing job even for porn.

 

[Zhonda]

Based on the lack of skin deformation and any motion blur I'm predicting disappointment.

Indeed disappointing but with a silver lining.

The movie doesn’t even have the slap from the promo photo! The one in the movie only has the dude in frame! That slap could be from a stagehand for all we know. LOL

From this camera angle we can’t even tell if contact was made. I’d have to DL the movie and go frame by frame to be sure, but I suspect it to be a totally fake slap. What a damn pussy. Have the chicks take huge phalluses down the throat, sure. Have the dudes take a slap in the face? No! JAV draws the line there!

So what’s the silver lining? The JAV itself was actually decent! Mini-review:
https://www.akiba-online.com/thread...erately-try-to-act-tough.1208535/post-4639163


Promo photo:

 

[Taako]

Indeed disappointing but with a silver lining.

The movie doesn’t even have the slap from the promo photo! The one in the movie only has the dude in frame! That slap could be from a stagehand for all we know. LOL

JAV is notorious for including shots that's not in the movies.
I know I get a little upset, when I see an actress in clothing looking hot and expect to see it in the movie and it's not there

From this camera angle we can’t even tell if contact was made. I’d have to DL the movie and go frame by frame to be sure, but I suspect it to be a totally fake slap. What a damn pussy. Have the chicks take huge phalluses down the throat, sure. Have the dudes take a slap in the face? No! JAV draws the line there!

Here! Here!

So what’s the silver lining? The JAV itself was actually decent! Mini-review:
https://www.akiba-online.com/thread...erately-try-to-act-tough.1208535/post-4639163

Glad the movie was decent for you

View attachment 3163751
View attachment 3163750
Promo photo:
View attachment 3163809

 

[Taako]

SUPER GRRRIIIIIPPEEE!!!!!!
If and when you make a movie, could you PLEASE TELL YOUR CREW TO SHUT THE F'UP AND BE QUIET!
OK. Until today I did not know this video exist. Because I wasn't looking for it. The video is Kar-386 scene 4. That's what it says.
I thought the thumbnail show a cute woman and I was intrigued. I still don't know who she is but she has a nice assBut that's another story.

So this movie is old and I don't expect perfection with any of these studios.
But what I did not expect was the disrespectful noise. And what I mean, sounded like someone running, some type of construction, lots of banging, things being dropped, etc.

At this point I was expecting someone to start singing opera.

The setting for this scene was a "train" or sub way. So the scene itself wasn't terribly exciting.
So with someone running in the background(you see their shadow), the construction noises, and...oh yeah there's a telephone that constantly ringing. It NEVER NEVER stops ringing for all but 2-3 seconds and starts again.
I don't know if someone owes a bill or their wife/gf is checking on them... BUT that phone NEVER stops ringing. I even yell for them to answer it and I'm in the year 2023

If the director wasn't upset about the constant noise, then his hearing is worse than mines. And he must be an idiot.
I feel very sorry for the sound guy. He had to be annoyed.

Here is a sample of the noise below...
https://soundcloud.com/clay-moore-177479312%2Fugly-jav-noise%2Fs-LLxW3slZnQ0

 

[Safadinho]

I can never get my head around the fact that almost never ever does a JAV actress touch another JAV actress in group sex scenes. No touching, no kissing, no sucking nipples, no groping of tits, no licking of pussies!

Why? Why the bloody hell?

 

[Taako]

I know you don't mean Lesbian JAV... I think its a little false.
But I see your point.
In the end, they are Japanese. And they sign contracts to do what they are willing to do.
Guys don't touch each other. Even though some of the recognizable ones has done gay/trans porn

If only your gripe came about a a month earlier. I'm certain I saw in one of my old collection, 'I Inspired My Mother Let Me Do Your Mom" series. But so far nothing.

I give you some proof.
And I think your gripe is valid, because I feel like porn stars today aren't open to it as much.

 

[Safadinho]

I know you don't mean Lesbian JAV... I think its a little false.
But I see your point.
In the end, they are Japanese. And they sign contracts to do what they are willing to do.
Guys don't touch each other. Even though some of the recognizable ones has done gay/trans porn

If only your gripe came about a a month earlier. I'm certain I saw in one of my old collection, 'I Inspired My Mother Let Me Do Your Mom" series. But so far nothing.

I give you some proof.
And I think your gripe is valid, because I feel like porn stars today aren't open to it as much.

View attachment 3166692View attachment 3166693

I know that you are correct but these examples you quote are like a drop of water in an ocean. I have also found some scenes that make my complaint invalid apparently but I feel it is valid in 99.9% of the cases.

Still, there are so many scenes that make up for it by surprising me with great ideas.

 

[Taako]

I know that you are correct but these examples you quote are like a drop of water in an ocean. I have also found some scenes that make my complaint invalid apparently but I feel it is valid in 99.9% of the cases.

Still, there are so many scenes that make up for it by surprising me with great ideas.

No, no. Read what I said. I said your "Grip of the month" was valid
I said in 'today's' jav... it's even more noticeable
I even said the examples I provided was far and few

I get why some actresses don't want to be touch. It a manner of Japanese culture, being a straight woman, and fulfilling your contractual obligation. All good reasons imo

Personal for me, I would like too see it with my fave stars, but unless it lesbian titles or the actresses are real friends. It's little to no chance

 

[periph]

Personally I am a huge fan of girl on girl action when there is also a guy involved. I have wondered why it isn't more common also and am often disappointed when there is a video with multiple girls and they don't interact sexually at all.

However, I don't think it is necessarily mainly due to personal preferences of the actresses. This may be the case for some actresses, but you can see some actresses kissing, touching, licking creampies, fucking women with strapons in one video and then in another video the same actresses will be together and no interaction during the sex. So it can't be that those women are grossed out by the idea of sex with another woman. There are even times when you see two actresses, let's say they are both facing each other riding on top of a guy and they almost move to start kissing but then they remember or the director stops them from doing it.

What I'm thinking is that it is a director's or company's marketing decision to include or not include girl-girl in the video and, more often than not, they don't want it in the video. So that means there are probably reasons why they don't include it.

The cultural part might come into this, but from the male customer perspective. I don't have any cultural knowledge to substantiate this so this is pure speculation, but it could be possible that to some significant proportion of their male customers in Japan, girl-on-girl is a turn-off sort of like the way that man-on-man is a turn off for straight men. Like Western viewers see girl-on-girl and think, wow, those girls are so horny they're kissing each other and it's hot to see beauty on beauty so it's a turn on. It's possible Japanese males see it and think, ew, that is so gross or if the girls like girls, then that decreases their want/need for male cock and makes them feel less "wanted." On the other hand, girl-girl must be a turn on for some Japanese men, because there are examples in videos of girls kissing or touching each other specifically to turn on the man. For example, in CJOD-341, when the dude has exhausted himself after creaming the girls a few times, Himari Kinoshita and Hinako Mori, start making out with each other and keep asking if he likes it until he's erect again and he joins in. Another example, in CJOD-352 which features 3 girls, there's a scene where, when the guy is getting his cock sucked by one girl, that the other two girls say to the guy, "Look at this." And they start kissing. Then say, "Do you like this?" They switch out who's sucking and then the other two girls kiss and say it again. So this must be appealing to some men in their target market.

Maybe there are financial reasons. In interviews, JAV actresses have said that when they sign up for an agency, they fill out a list of sex acts that they are willing to do and it seems plausible that they would get paid more to do more things in a particular job. It's possible that girl-girl is an additional cost so companies decide it's not worth it to pay for that in videos that aren't going to feature that.

If you like girl-girl interaction during a hetero sex scene, some good ways to look for it:
- Check out Hunter releases. I used to ignore them because they are a bit lower quality productions than the top studios and some of the actresses they use aren't the top names, but they actually have really great fantasy scenarios that are non-rapey and, if there are multiple girls in a scene, there's a good chance they will interact during the sex.
- Look at the director. In particular, the female director Misaki Nao is really good at girl-on-girl so if there are more than one actress in one of her films, there a better chance they will interact.
- Some actresses are more into it. Two that come to mind are Himari Kinoshita and Hinako Mori.
- Also, the two example titles above are two of the very best at girl-girl hetero scenes.

 

[Taako]

However, I don't think it is necessarily mainly due to personal preferences of the actresses. This may be the case for some actresses, but you can see some actresses kissing, touching, licking creampies, fucking women with strapons in one video and then in another video the same actresses will be together and no interaction during the sex. So it can't be that those women are grossed out by the idea of sex with another woman.

Some could be gross out. Just like guys.

There are even times when you see two actresses, let's say they are both facing each other riding on top of a guy and they almost move to start kissing but then they remember or the director stops them from doing it.

Seen this many times. I think it could be both. Too me, it looks like one actress wants to kiss...and the other doesn't

What I'm thinking is that it is a director's or company's marketing decision to include or not include girl-girl in the video and, more often than not, they don't want it in the video. So that means there are probably reasons why they don't include it.

I think the director/studio doesn't care unless its a "freebie". But if the actress doesn't sign for and they(studio) get caught, they have to pay for it.

The cultural part might come into this, but from the male customer perspective. I don't have any cultural knowledge to substantiate this so this is pure speculation, but it could be possible that to some significant proportion of their male customers in Japan, girl-on-girl is a turn-off sort of like the way that man-on-man is a turn off for straight men. Like Western viewers see girl-on-girl and think, wow, those girls are so horny they're kissing each other and it's hot to see beauty on beauty so it's a turn on. It's possible Japanese males see it and think, ew, that is so gross or if the girls like girls, then that decreases their want/need for male cock and makes them feel less "wanted." On the other hand, girl-girl must be a turn on for some Japanese men, because there are examples in videos of girls kissing or touching each other specifically to turn on the man. For example, in CJOD-341, when the dude has exhausted himself after creaming the girls a few times, Himari Kinoshita and Hinako Mori, start making out with each other and keep asking if he likes it until he's erect again and he joins in. Another example, in CJOD-352 which features 3 girls, there's a scene where, when the guy is getting his cock sucked by one girl, that the other two girls say to the guy, "Look at this." And they start kissing. Then say, "Do you like this?" They switch out who's sucking and then the other two girls kiss and say it again. So this must be appealing to some men in their target market.

JAV is culture based. But I don't know what Japanese men like or don't like in their porn. Besides young girls

Maybe there are financial reasons. In interviews, JAV actresses have said that when they sign up for an agency, they fill out a list of sex acts that they are willing to do and it seems plausible that they would get paid more to do more things in a particular job. It's possible that girl-girl is an additional cost so companies decide it's not worth it to pay for that in videos that aren't going to feature that.

That would seem to be the case. It's like the extras and 'cucks'. Clearly they don't get pay the same. I hear some don't get paid at all. I heard something about if you work, you are obligated to the studio and wait your turn. Whatever that means.
I think its like seniority.
I've seen many videos of extras who look like they aren't allow to touch the actress, but stand in the background.
Gradually, you see them able to touch the actress... and then after a while they are allow to maybe get a handjob and then after... maybe have sex. But its a slow process for some.

 

[intrepid8]

Personally I am a huge fan of girl on girl action when there is also a guy involved. I have wondered why it isn't more common

Anyone who focuses on actual lesbian content would probably beg to differ! Admittedly it's less common now it seems but 10 or so years ago I would say that a full third of "lesbian" tagged content had significant dick in it.

So that could be my gripe for this month... why no tag for girl-girl content in a non-lesbian film context? (I know, seeing 3P/4P tags in a title featuring two female actresses is a decent cue when appropriate...)

However, I don't think it is necessarily mainly due to personal preferences of the actresses.

I'd say not. Probably not many porn actresses getting a lot of work with significant inhibitions. There are actresses I've wanted to see lesbian titles from that have never done one in 100s or even 1000s of releases though. Guess they're pretty good at the other stuff they do then.

Bonus gripe. Fuck Xunlei/Thunder torrent client leeches. You're a bandwidth thief and contribute nothing to file sharing. Insta-IP ban from me when I notice them.

 

[ding73ding]

Anyone who focuses on actual lesbian content would probably beg to differ! Admittedly it's less common now it seems but 10 or so years ago I would say that a full third of "lesbian" tagged content had significant dick in it.

So that could be my gripe for this month... why no tag for girl-girl content in a non-lesbian film context? (I know, seeing 3P/4P tags in a title featuring two female actresses is a decent cue when appropriate...)



I'd say not. Probably not many porn actresses getting a lot of work with significant inhibitions. There are actresses I've wanted to see lesbian titles from that have never done one in 100s or even 1000s of releases though. Guess they're pretty good at the other stuff they do then.

Bonus gripe. Fuck Xunlei/Thunder torrent client leeches. You're a bandwidth thief and contribute nothing to file sharing. Insta-IP ban from me when I notice them.

Ha... very interesting... I have been an un-fan of lesbians for like 20 years. If I knew lesbian JAV had cocks (and penetration right?) in them I'd watch more of it.

In generally JAV 3P and group sex too often doesn't "get it", too often it's just some sequential and/or spatially independent 2P actions.

About "personal preferences", in JAV it's a very tricky topic. ONE, very often an actress would not do certain type of scene not because she's personally afraid or disgusted by that action, but it's because kind of scene in a commercial release will have a real, well-known, negative impact in her future income. The obvious one is creampie, which is totally silly I know. Everyone knows most of the creampie scenes are fake, but every idol experience an permanent depreciation of her earnings after her first creampie title. I suspect there's also something similar for lesbian or lesbian-like scene. Once she lick a pussy on screen, her market value is reduced.

Which is a huge shame, I love real multi player interactions.

 

[intrepid8]

Ha... very interesting... I have been an un-fan of lesbians for like 20 years. If I knew lesbian JAV had cocks (and penetration right?) in them I'd watch more of it.

I think you'd be equally frustrated at the proportion of hetero sex so I doubt it's a solid method for seeking out MFF content.

I have a significant amount of hetero material myself but I kind of expect my lesbian content to be pretty much dick free you know?

I basically go by a 5 minute rule. If there's more straight sex than that in a movie marked as lesbian and especially if isn't there to propel the storyline (rapey or cheating husband, NTR setup etc), then it gets moved to the vanilla folder if it has something interesting to it or deleted outright otherwise.

In generally JAV 3P and group sex too often doesn't "get it", too often it's just some sequential and/or spatially independent 2P actions.

Agreed, there's a lot of that. A title without the girls kissing or snowballing, simultaneously blowing some guy or something else of interest gets a hard pass from me. I prefer my 3P/4P to be all girl where I can almost guarantee that it will be actual group action.

The obvious one is creampie, which is totally silly I know. Everyone knows most of the creampie scenes are fake, but every idol experience an permanent depreciation of her earnings after her first creampie title. I suspect there's also something similar for lesbian or lesbian-like scene. Once she lick a pussy on screen, her market value is reduced.

I can't even pretend to understand the mindset of those consumers. If I don't like something an actress performs I'd just move on. I can't imagine why it would reduce my opinion of them.

Having said that I think you're right that there's a negative impact on income by doing "fringe" material. Opening yourself up a wider range of opportunities probably negates that to a large extent though and I doubt established, well known and talented actresses give a fuck either way. They'll just do whatever interests them and team up with people and studios they like to work with. The talent is going to have the majority control there.

There are lesbian debut titles that make me cringe every time I see them that state bullshit like "lifting the lesbian ban". I've always wondered how that's meant to read. Is the girl lifting the ban or the studio? I hope it's the former because the latter is pretty pathetic... like the fucking studio decided that the actress is now allowed to eat pussy... I have to assume it's some gimmick to entice lesbian enthusiasts by suggesting the girl has resisted up until now but finally succumbed to the charms of the seductive lesbian partner. Sorry, seems lame to me.

 

[JetTee]

I can never get my head around the fact that almost never ever does a JAV actress touch another JAV actress in group sex scenes. No touching, no kissing, no sucking nipples, no groping of tits, no licking of pussies!

Why? Why the bloody hell?

My gripe is kind of related to yours. I hate films where there is a female antagonist who gets her hands on the heroine then disappears out of the movie so generic dudes can fuck her. Happens in so many GIGA movies it is almost impossible to count.

Case in point, IPX 849, where Anna Kami's slinky assistant tricks and captures her, ties her up on the bed and then is never seen again. Wtf?

 

[intrepid8]

My gripe is kind of related to yours. I hate films where there is a female antagonist who gets her hands on the heroine then disappears out of the movie so generic dudes can fuck her.

On the plus side - at least from my point of view - there's quite a few of the inverse, where generic dude captures or ropes up an actress and is out of the action entirely while the other actress has her way with her.

 

[periph]

My gripe is kind of related to yours. I hate films where there is a female antagonist who gets her hands on the heroine then disappears out of the movie so generic dudes can fuck her. Happens in so many GIGA movies it is almost impossible to count.

Check out TAMM-026. Basic plot: Male student Ken has a hot girlfriend but his teacher comes to his place and he connects so well with the teacher that they end up making love on his bed while his girlfriend is hiding in the hallway. Girlfriend is jealous so she starts getting bad older men snatch the teacher and they pound her pussy and mouth super hard while the girlfriend watches. She starts blackmailing the teacher and renting her out to get fucked by men. Then in the best scene of the video, she brings her to get fucked by some dude while she tells him what to do to the teacher. But the girlfriend completes the teacher's corruption by also joining in to kiss the teacher, lick her pussy, then makes the teacher kiss her and lick her pussy, all while the dude keeps on fucking them both. In the end, the teacher is so into it that she licks cum off the girlfriend's face and kisses her for a cumswap. Ken confronts the girlfriend on what is going on with the teacher being absent and she confesses to having the teacher r***ing and laughs in his face and tells him she's getting banged again right now. Ken runs off to save her but the teacher is now addicted to sex and in a room getting pounded by three dudes and loving it.

TAMM-023 is also a similar plot.

If anybody has a quality download of TAMM-026 (hopefully without the casino ads), please point it out.

 

[Taako]

My gripe is kind of related to yours. I hate films where there is a female antagonist who gets her hands on the heroine then disappears out of the movie so generic dudes can fuck her. Happens in so many GIGA movies it is almost impossible to count.

Case in point, IPX 849, where Anna Kami's slinky assistant tricks and captures her, ties her up on the bed and then is never seen again. Wtf?

Yup.
I mean the point of movie, or at least as it sold is for the female villain(antagonist) to play a large role and do most of the "torture" "revenge" against the heroine(protagonist).
In most of these movies, the guys take over and it's like... this wasn't about you at all.
I can only think it was studio interference because something like DASD-611 got it right.
That is how you're suppose to do this type of genre! Bravo!!!

 

[Taako]

Another grip. Happy April.

Drugs and Hypno. Not that these things aren't new to JAV. And they are real thing used in the real world, in many cases to f*** or r*** girls/women.
My gripe in JAV is how untested these devices are used on first used and the easy execution.
Yes, it's hard to believe but drugs not going to work that fast lol even by digestion. And Hypno takes a long time to work.

Let's start with drugs.
As someone in the medical field and giving meds to patients, I can tell you rather it's pills or liquid, it takes times. Also it depends on the dosage, the patient bio, and etc.

In JAV, the bad guy just mixes a couple of drops in the apple juice... its always apple juice or green tea for some reason
and with a couple of minutes the female is feeling sleepy and so dead, she can't feel herself getting f*** or r*** lol
What??? No. The only way this possible is the female is not sleeping and she knows what you're doing actually lol which makes sense.

The quickest way to induce sleeping is with gas or liquid anesthesia(through the veins).

Also, in this genre, the bad guy doesn't even test the drug. He doesn't even know if the woman is allergic to it and have an adverse reaction to it that puts her in a permanent coma or death.
I would love to see a movie where the guy after finish the girl and tries to wake her up and realize she's in a coma/dead and he panic like crazy in the end

Give me a twist ending on that JAV. Not the same stuff.

Now hypno. I don't about it that much. But I know you have to actually take many sessions for it to work because everyone not easily put in a hypnotic state. And also there is a light and deep state of hypno, so unless you know what you're doing, it's going to take a long long time. In JAV they show the bad guy closing and book, using a pen, lighter, or his finger and the woman is completely under control hahaha
What??? Ok whateva. If you believe that works in real life than ok

What about the hypno app in JAV where they're so powerful just glancing at it makes someone your slave?
Why don't it hypno the bad guys who actually look at it first when they open their phones to see it??? lol yeah.

If they do this plot I wish they add more twists. It's really boring now. That is my gripe this month.

Thanks.

 

[mrflexog]

Drugs and Hypno.

My two favorite niche genres.
I don't much like r*** JAV, depending on the girl, r*** JAV that starts with r*** but then the girl gets into it and then starts initiating sex in following scenes can actually be quite good but for the most part, I don't much enjoy a title if it's r*** themed.
Drugs and Hypno on the otherhand are perfect for me because I love super nympo stuff, so I'm not much into the whole knock out drugs, just the aphrodisiacs. The retarded ahegao and all that nonsense is my kind of bag so a girl getting hypnotised and or drugged then turning into a demented turbo slut is pretty much everything I want. I do prefer drugs to hypno as with hypno you always get a lame regaining conciousness segements. I'm just here to see girls act retarded while having sex.

As for the the realism of it, I kinda like when the girl goes off into the shower to masturbait and the guy walks in and they start having sex. That's what does it for me. Either way I suppose my responce is only tangentially related.

 

[mrflexog]

My gripe of the month applies to every month.
I hate downloading an "uncensored leak" and it's actually decensored. I don't know what it is about decensored stuff but it's far too distracting. I'm not sure if I prefer censored to it. Either way hardly an improvement if not just as bad.
Do you really need those metric? You need that "downloads" number to go up so bad that you'll bait people into downloading? come on.