is porn star really enjoy ?

[darksider59]

The thing is, I may be unlike your average porn fans who follow actresses, studios, genre, or what not that you imagine. I basically just like seeing people have fun together. What good for me could be from the industry, pro-am like on FC2, or simply from amatuers in Pornhub.

Amateur content is mostly pro material without a budget lol. By that, I mean that they are acting for the camera, to get a good video that will generate clicks and a following to sell onlyfans subscriptions and other things.

here in this forum Inertia from Zenra also published their own interviews which are interesting to read.

Those interviews, like Fanza does too (I think), are done for promoting their content. It's basically the same answers as what they say in their first movies (when the director does an "interview"). It's like saying what pro wrestlers (and now MMA fighters do that too) say when they are in promo is what they think.

There you can see that it's not all doom and gloom (chicken farming documentaries are always doom and gloom, but not all chicken "farms" are huge factories which supply KFC and the like).

What you get in supermarkets come from that kind of farms too. At least cheap chicken/meat. in the US, I'm always surprised how cheap the chicken is. There is a reason for that. Why getting a camera in those farms is so difficult ? Because they don't you to see how bad it is. Chickens can't go outside, they're super packed, a lot are dying.

In my country, Dorcel and another porn producer (French Bukkake) got sued by actresses (over 40). Basically, they were forced to performed things that weren't scheduled. One girl had to do a gangbang with many dudes, and it wasn't supposed to happen. Sure, in the video, she might look like she "enjoyed" it by saying "fuck me, more" and all those lines, but the reality is completely different.

@Taako if you are talking about my comments then just address me directly instead of saying "they" and talking through him.

BTW there are always people like you in forums who have some negative views about the forum's subject but amazingly are still there and commenting. Like, if you have such views about JAV production, if I were you I'd forget about it and do something better.

Because we just enjoy it for what is it, nothing more. We're not trying to pretend girls do porn because they want to film the best AV for their fans. We enjoy talking about our favorite actresses, movies and such.

 

[Taako]

In my country, Dorcel and another porn producer (French Bukkake) got sued by actresses (over 40). Basically, they were forced to performed things that weren't scheduled. One girl had to do a gangbang with many dudes, and it wasn't supposed to happen. Sure, in the video, she might look like she "enjoyed" it by saying "fuck me, more" and all those lines, but the reality is completely different.

When I hear things like this, I'm so glad actresses are having laws passed and getting some type of protection. Men who complain about the law never are the ones experiencing such tragedies. And the women who are against the law should be glad they might never have to experience such dark reality of porn.
Just like the victims of Harvey Weinstein, porn isn't the only place where women are taken advantage of.

Because we just enjoy it for what is it, nothing more. We're not trying to pretend girls do porn because they want to film the best AV for their fans. We enjoy talking about our favorite actresses, movies and such.

This.

 

[twenie]

Amateur content is mostly pro material without a budget lol. By that, I mean that they are acting for the camera, to get a good video that will generate clicks and a following to sell onlyfans subscriptions and other things.

I provided you examples of people (male and female) who show their bodies for no profit, not onlyfans users. In twitter alone, you can easily find tens or even hundreds of this, limited by your searching language(s). Later on, some of these "exhibitionists" mave move to onlyfans/pornhub/whatnot if they want to make a business out of it.

Now let's move to "big budget" productions since that's what you seem to focus on. Studios like Knights Visual and Doku Enkai have been using unpaid actors who voluntarily perform (you can try to sign for it when they post their ad). At least on the male side (actors), that clearly shows that people do porn because the simply want to do it.

Flip the scenario, imagine that a studio makes porn for females. Now they are looking for girls and women who want to volunteer to perform in a "bachelor-like" porn theme with a handsome actor (just an example for a theme).

Those interviews, like Fanza does too (I think), are done for promoting their content. It's basically the same answers as what they say in their first movies (when the director does an "interview"). It's like saying what pro wrestlers (and now MMA fighters do that too) say when they are in promo is what they think.

Ok then let's move to "neutral" party, like this interview with Mikako Abe and this interview Rizu Suzuki from Nobita. Would you want to say that they are lying through their mouths too?

What you get in supermarkets come from that kind of farms too. At least cheap chicken/meat. in the US, I'm always surprised how cheap the chicken is. There is a reason for that. Why getting a camera in those farms is so difficult ? Because they don't you to see how bad it is. Chickens can't go outside, they're super packed, a lot are dying.

Now you began to distinguish by saying a condition ("at least cheap chicken/meat") because you know that there are free ranged farms. Heck, move to a developing countries and you will see much bigger variety of chicken sold.

Because we just enjoy it for what is it, nothing more. We're not trying to pretend girls do porn because they want to film the best AV for their fans. We enjoy talking about our favorite actresses, movies and such.

And I look for performers (girls and boys) who enjoy what they do because porn for me is not about fantasy, but watching people having fun together. You keep shooting this down because in your opinion from watching some documentaries, interviews, and stuff, all porn productions are bad and that could not happen.

Do you wanna say that no actors and actresses love their job in mainstream movie production too? If you focus on those negative news, docus, and interviews about mainstream movie production, I can imagine that someone will say that all actors and actresses perform only for money and if they could, they don't want to be there.

The world is not black and white. If you often generalize and think in simple terms, you will find yourself keep swinging from one end to the other in life.

 

[darksider59]

When I hear things like this, I'm so glad actresses are having laws passed and getting some type of protection. Men who complain about the law never are the ones experiencing such tragedies. And the women who are against the law should be glad they might never have to experience such dark reality of porn.
Just like the victims of Harvey Weinstein, porn isn't the only place where women are taken advantage of.

Oh yeah that's true. I even remember Tsubomi talking once about how bad one shooting was (a bukkake movie I think). She was basically left alone off set, like she was just a product. And people also forget that abuses also happen in regular companies while it might look "normal" from an outside perspective.

I provided you examples of people (male and female) who show their bodies for no profit, not onlyfans users. In twitter alone, you can easily find tens or even hundreds of this, limited by your searching language(s). Later on, some of these "exhibitionists" mave move to onlyfans/pornhub/whatnot if they want to make a business out of it.

Now let's move to "big budget" productions since that's what you seem to focus on. Studios like Knights Visual and Doku Enkai have been using unpaid actors who voluntarily perform (you can try to sign for it when they post their ad). At least on the male side (actors), that clearly shows that people do porn because the simply want to do it.

Flip the scenario, imagine that a studio makes porn for females. Now they are looking for girls and women who want to volunteer to perform in a "bachelor-like" porn theme with a handsome actor (just an example for a theme).

Yes, those who don't show their faces might be that kind of people. For porn, unpaid actors are desperate dudes. It's just my guess but when you look at them, yeah, outside a porn set, they couldn't date girls like Asahi Mizuno or Julia.

Ok then let's move to "neutral" party, like this interview with Mikako Abe and this interview Rizu Suzuki from Nobita. Would you want to say that they are lying through their mouths too?

Ha Nobita ... We talked about him on another thread in the past. Beside him, those interviews are still similar, it's the new kind of promo on social media. Of course an actress will not say bad things about studios or the business, it would be stupid. However, once they're retired, their speech tend to change. While there are probably some nympho actresses, of course, they are probably not top actresses (more low rank actresses) and not the majority.

And I look for performers (girls and boys) who enjoy what they do because porn for me is not about fantasy, but watching people having fun together. You keep shooting this down because in your opinion from watching some documentaries, interviews, and stuff, all porn productions are bad and that could not happen.

Do you wanna say that no actors and actresses love their job in mainstream movie production too? If you focus on those negative news, docus, and interviews about mainstream movie production, I can imagine that someone will say that all actors and actresses perform only for money and if they could, they don't want to be there.

The world is not black and white. If you often generalize and think in simple terms, you will find yourself keep swinging from one end to the other in life.

I never said all productions are bad and actresses and actors don't enjoy it. But from the comments I read here, a lot of dudes think what they see in movies is real. "She's shaking, so she likes it", "she's blushing, so she's into him for sure", "wow, she likes cum because she's smiling". It's pathetic. The same insulted me and some others when we were "debunking" cumshots and porn tricks. "What do you know about porn ? You can't fake that ! You're an idiot". Then, uncensored pics leaked online where you could see fake dicks and all the fun BTS stuff. Those dudes were "shocked". Lol.

Also, it's not difficult to imagine yourself in an actress position. Would you be excited to be fucked by an old fat dude in front of a production team ? Let's say the loosers' Hero "Taku". Do you really think hot girls like Suzumura Airi or Ootsuki Hibiki are like "yeah, I'll be fucked by this guy today". No to mention that they are changing positions, angles, take instructions from the director every 2 seconds. So, it's not like they can do whatever they want.

 

[Taako]

Oh yeah that's true. I even remember Tsubomi talking once about how bad one shooting was (a bukkake movie I think). She was basically left alone off set, like she was just a product. And people also forget that abuses also happen in regular companies while it might look "normal" from an outside perspective.

Not surprise. Even well known actress are treated bad. Remember what Hitomi said after her retirement? She said how her body was abuse many times. Stuff like that isn't only physical but mental too.

Yes, those who don't show their faces might be that kind of people. For porn, unpaid actors are desperate dudes. It's just my guess but when you look at them, yeah, outside a porn set, they couldn't date girls like Asahi Mizuno or Julia.

Any actor working for free is desperate imo. I might do it once or twice for my fave actresses but after, I need some money.
Most unpaid actors don't get a handjob, suck off, or have sex. Many jerk off in the background. Yikes

Of course an actress will not say bad things about studios or the business, it would be stupid. However, once they're retired, their speech tend to change. While there are probably some nympho actresses, of course, they are probably not top actresses (more low rank actresses) and not the majority.

I have yet to see a working porn actress call out a studio. And if she does... she gonna be banned.

I never said all productions are bad and actresses and actors don't enjoy it. But from the comments I read here, a lot of dudes think what they see in movies is real. "She's shaking, so she likes it", "she's blushing, so she's into him for sure", "wow, she likes cum because she's smiling". It's pathetic.

Porn misery, as you say. It's why I stay away from the disgusting porn.
I want to keep pretending every girls loves sex hahahaha

The same insulted me and some others when we were "debunking" cumshots and porn tricks. "What do you know about porn ? You can't fake that ! You're an idiot". Then, uncensored pics leaked online where you could see fake dicks and all the fun BTS stuff. Those dudes were "shocked". Lol.

Yes. As stated, I think pixeled, censored, mosiac, fake dicks, fake cum, or whatever have served JAV well.
You are almost forced to believe things are real hahaha
Where it falls apart is those uncensored leaks and you see condoms, fake dicks, tubing, cuts, re-edits, and etc.

Also, it's not difficult to imagine yourself in an actress position. Would you be excited to be fucked by an old fat dude in front of a production team ? Let's say the loosers' Hero "Taku". Do you really think hot girls like Suzumura Airi or Ootsuki Hibiki are like "yeah, I'll be fucked by this guy today". No to mention that they are changing positions, angles, take instructions from the director every 2 seconds. So, it's not like they can do whatever they want.

This. I seen old footage years ago of american porn behind the scene with cuts, camera angles, and etc. If american porn do this, I can imagine JAV being even more extensive. Acting and story is a big part of JAV.

The actresses deserve a medal. While most are good at faking. Others are not.
We've all seen movies where the actress looks ill having sex with a guy. Not part of the script, not part of the movie. But realistically, it's on her face. It's apparent.

Reminds me of the Yui Nagese movie(I can't remember).
I swear she was giving the guy the deadest stare throughout the movie--even when she didn't have sex with him. Something bad went down, I'm sure.
Also that actor in other movies having sex with dudes and trans. Maybe he was a little too aggressive and she was piss? I don't know.

 

[darksider59]

The actresses deserve a medal. While most are good at faking. Others are not.
We've all seen movies where the actress looks ill having sex with a guy. Not part of the script, not part of the movie. But realistically, it's on her face. It's apparent.

I think that only if you are popular, you have more power to pick your partner yourself. Shoko Takahashi probably did that because she never had scenes with the old fat frog Taku (I think). Some might just don't care as long as they are getting paid for that.

Also that actor in other movies having sex with dudes and trans. Maybe he was a little too aggressive and she was piss? I don't know.

In an english podcast, Kaho Shibuya said that some actors think they are "sex gods" and one told her "you gonna have an orgasm for sure". lmao, such idiots. That's why it makes me laugh when I see those guys on Youtube sharing "sex tips". They're probably the last people you want to get sex advices from.

 

[Taako]

I think that only if you are popular, you have more power to pick your partner yourself. Shoko Takahashi probably did that because she never had scenes with the old fat frog Taku (I think). Some might just don't care as long as they are getting paid for that.

I believe both. They can be popular and choose. OR... do it for the money and not care.

In an english podcast, Kaho Shibuya said that some actors think they are "sex gods" and one told her "you gonna have an orgasm for sure". lmao, such idiots. That's why it makes me laugh when I see those guys on Youtube sharing "sex tips". They're probably the last people you want to get sex advices from.

Funny, because I believe another porn star said an actor said the same thing it seems these guys have a lot of confidence hahaha

Yeah I read some of their advice and really it's nothing outstanding. Stay fit, get plenty of sleep, blah blah
where it gets weird is the advice on how to get girls lol and make her beg for it in bed hahahaha

 

[headcrusher]

I'm revisiting some BLOR videos and the main actor is amazing. He always knows how to hit the spot of women. There are some videos where the girl just can't stop shaking.

 

[Zhonda]

revisiting some BLOR videos and the main actor is amazing. He always knows how to hit the spot of women. There are some videos where the girl just can't stop shaking.

Thanks for the pointer. At random I checked out blor-203. The actress seemed to have a “good” time keeping up with the male talent. At some points it looked like she’d start crying. Wanted to see her other JAVs for comparison but she only has two. Did the blor talent pound her right of a JAV career? Delicious thought.

Videos starring Aomine Iroha - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

 

[headcrusher]

Thanks for the pointer. At random I checked out blor-203. The actress seemed to have a “good” time keeping up with the male talent. At some points it looked like she’d start crying. Wanted to see her other JAVs for comparison but she only has two. Did the blor talent pound her right of a JAV career? Delicious thought.

Videos starring Aomine Iroha - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

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BLOR actresses are mainly professionals so you have a plenty of videos where you can compare the actress performances.
There's another BLOR that is not BLOR but right now I don't remember its name. In those series I remember seeing real amateur girls.

 

[Zhonda]

BLOR actresses are mainly professionals so you have a plenty of videos where you can compare the actress performances.

I’m not sure what I want more, a rookie shocked by a pro pounding (a welcome to the big leagues), or the vet town bicycle that can still feel it if reamed properly. Lmao

I’ll start with blor-178 as a case study. Relatively new plain Jane; less than 20 titles credited, first one in June 2021. Blor really likes to dress them down, I suppose to give it a realism impact, but she’s a genuine plain Jane, crooked teeth and all. According to JL, blor-178 is her third title; she gets slammed and laugh/giggles when there are pauses in the action, as coping mechanism? I don’t like that but I understand it can be a thing for Japanese chicks. My homework now is to see whether she copy/pastes that performance in later titles; genuine or is she a faking at a Meryl Streep level? (fake fake fake fake, LOL).

Whatever the outcome, props to her snagging multiple gigs, though her last solo outing was Feb 2022. If they can’t coast on looks, the performance better keep us connoisseurs interested!

Videos starring Nakashima Atsuko - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

 

[headcrusher]

I’m not sure what I want more, a rookie shocked by a pro pounding (a welcome to the big leagues), or the vet town bicycle that can still feel it if reamed properly. Lmao

I’ll start with blor-178 as a case study. Relatively new plain Jane; less than 20 titles credited, first one in June 2021. Blor really likes to dress them down, I suppose to give it a realism impact, but she’s a genuine plain Jane, crooked teeth and all. According to JL, blor-178 is her third title; she gets slammed and laugh/giggles when there are pauses in the action, as coping mechanism? I don’t like that but I understand it can be a thing for Japanese chicks. My homework now is to see whether she copy/pastes that performance in later titles; genuine or is she a faking at a Meryl Streep level? (fake fake fake fake, LOL).

Whatever the outcome, props to her snagging multiple gigs, though her last solo outing was Feb 2022. If they can’t coast on looks, the performance better keep us connoisseurs interested!

Videos starring Nakashima Atsuko - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

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I love the fact most of them look like regular women, even if most of them are pros who look "good" (to me they all look good) in their other videos.

 

[headcrusher]

Finally found it. The other series that is like BLOR is RPIN. The structure of the videos is the same... pretty much everything is the same. They even share the main actor.

One is made by ブロッコリー/妄想族 and the other by リコピン/妄想族

but it's just the same, I don't know why there are 2 different companies

 

[ding73ding]

Finally found it. The other series that is like BLOR is RPIN. The structure of the videos is the same... pretty much everything is the same. They even share the main actor.

One is made by ブロッコリー/妄想族 and the other by リコピン/妄想族

but it's just the same, I don't know why there are 2 different companies

I believe 妄想族 is the "mother" company and ブロッコリー and リコピン are different labels under the same group of production. I mean the two are probably the same in every way, same president, director, staff, maybe even share the same bank account. Different only in label.

Out of curiosity I look them up in sougouwiki and found these fluffs for them (translation by Google):
ブロッコリー Broccoli
素人娘の着衣セックスを追求するメーカー、ブロッコリー！
いろんな女の子が職場の制服やコスプレでねっとりじっくりハメまくる！！
Broccoli, a manufacturer that pursues clothed sex for amateur girls!
Various girls in uniforms and cosplays at work are soggy and sticky! !

リコピン Lycopene
Anyway, this manufacturer only makes "a woman who wants to be messed up in AV" appear. I give supreme acme and sex to women who just want pleasure, not work, and drive them crazy!
当メーカーは、とにかく『AVに出てめちゃくちゃされたい女』しか出演させません。お仕事じゃない、ただ快感が欲しい女に、至上のアクメとセックスを与え狂わせます！

BTW Lycopene according to wikipedia is an organic compound found in tomato. So you may notice the broccoli and tomato in the same manga style used as logo for BLOR and RPIN.

 

[Zhonda]

the other by リコピン/妄想族

Thanks for this. I haven’t done my homework on performance comparisons. This’ll give me more. Oh no, what a tough life. LOL

The second most recent RPIN title features this chick. That’s stark change in appearance. I guess that’s the point of the series.

 

[intrepid8]

I believe 妄想族 is the "mother" company and ブロッコリー and リコピン are different labels under the same group of production. I mean the two are probably the same in every way, same president, director, staff, maybe even share the same bank account. Different only in label.

Right you are, Mousouzoku is the parent company. They have a lot of bizarrely names labels under their umbrella.

I keep an eye on them for fetish lesbian content mainly like Ebisu-san (EVIS) which has a lot of body part fetishism and Yama to Sora (SORA) aka Mountain and Sky which does some great lezdom, assault, pissing and public sex.

To continue the veggies theme there's a Zucchini, Onion and Young Corn label as well!

You can read about their specialities here:

妄想族 メーカー紹介 | AVメガサイト [妄想族] 公式アダルトサイト

mousouzoku-av.com

 

[maload]

Oh yeah that's true. I even remember Tsubomi talking once about how bad one shooting was (a bukkake movie I think). She was basically left alone off set, like she was just a product. And people also forget that abuses also happen in regular companies while it might look "normal" from an outside perspective.


Yes, those who don't show their faces might be that kind of people. For porn, unpaid actors are desperate dudes. It's just my guess but when you look at them, yeah, outside a porn set, they couldn't date girls like Asahi Mizuno or Julia.


Ha Nobita ... We talked about him on another thread in the past. Beside him, those interviews are still similar, it's the new kind of promo on social media. Of course an actress will not say bad things about studios or the business, it would be stupid. However, once they're retired, their speech tend to change. While there are probably some nympho actresses, of course, they are probably not top actresses (more low rank actresses) and not the majority.


I never said all productions are bad and actresses and actors don't enjoy it. But from the comments I read here, a lot of dudes think what they see in movies is real. "She's shaking, so she likes it", "she's blushing, so she's into him for sure", "wow, she likes cum because she's smiling". It's pathetic. The same insulted me and some others when we were "debunking" cumshots and porn tricks. "What do you know about porn ? You can't fake that ! You're an idiot". Then, uncensored pics leaked online where you could see fake dicks and all the fun BTS stuff. Those dudes were "shocked". Lol.

Also, it's not difficult to imagine yourself in an actress position. Would you be excited to be fucked by an old fat dude in front of a production team ? Let's say the loosers' Hero "Taku". Do you really think hot girls like Suzumura Airi or Ootsuki Hibiki are like "yeah, I'll be fucked by this guy today". No to mention that they are changing positions, angles, take instructions from the director every 2 seconds. So, it's not like they can do whatever they want.

i say remu can do everything for money
she is actress
she interview ...
people forgot that jav actress is ,,,,,, another kind of actress too

they think jav actress is robot with meat .. tell the truth ..true feeling

but i believe that fat man can make her cumming

really . i can do it for sure too .

cumming is not just because she love it .. but because her pussy cant stand it

its not called " i am happy "

for example ,, if somebody cut the dog s head then the dog must die ,, ( even he is a fat man and so on )

the dog is not " happy " at all , its the way their body reacted to something
.

 

[ding73ding]

i say remu can do everything for money
she is actress
she interview ...
people forgot that jav actress is ,,,,,, another kind of actress too

they think jav actress is robot with meat .. tell the truth ..true feeling

but i believe that fat man can make her cumming

really . i can do it for sure too .

cumming is not just because she love it .. but because her pussy cant stand it

its not called " i am happy "

for example ,, if somebody cut the dog s head then the dog must die ,, ( even he is a fat man and so on )

the dog is not " happy " at all , its the way their body reacted to something
.

Hmm difficult to understand your English... but guessing...

Yes it's quite likely the woman don't want to have sex with a certain man (old, fat whatever) but when being fucked her vagina will transmit pleasure to her brain, make pussy juice and even orgasm.

Of course we know that very often a woman want to fuck a man (say a lover) but her vagina doesn't get orgasm. Her enjoying the experience is entirely psychological and zero biological.

It's a big difference from men, 99% of the time, a man's enjoying sex is equal to ejaculation. For women, her enjoyment can be without biological pleasure (orgasm) and also her vagina can make orgasm but her mind dislike the experience.

In conclusion the OP question is way too simplistic and meaningless.

 

[darksider59]

but i believe that fat man can make her cumming

A porn shoot isn't what you see on the screen. They stop the action a lot of time for changing camera angle, for the actor (to avoid cumming if they use real cum), for the actress (because the position isn't comfortable). There is also a crew around them. So ugly dude, not comfortable position, plus people around you and pauses every 2 mins, no, the girl doesn't enjoy anything.

And if you don't believe me, here is how a porn shoot is done

Behind the scenes on a Japanese porn shoot – Tokyo Kinky Sex, Erotic and Adult Japan

www.tokyokinky.com

 

[eeeb]

A porn shoot isn't what you see on the screen. They stop the action a lot of time for changing camera angle, for the actor (to avoid cumming if they use real cum), for the actress (because the position isn't comfortable).

I know this is true in many cases, but I was actually surprised when I watched a few uncensored and unedited leaks by how continuous the action was. I had always assumed that most cuts in a finished film represented breaks in the action for the director to issue instructions etc. But it turned out in the leaks I watched that the cuts were mostly, as you mention, to make the transitions between camera angles smoother, but the fucking continued all the time the camera was switching to another view.