is porn star really enjoy ?

[Not2srius]

The best Jav make you believe the actors are really into it and are having great sex. It could be that they are just acting, but one thing I've noticed is the "face flush" when a woman orgasms. You can't fake that. While I don't want to get into a discussion of whether you find Reiko Sawamura attractive (I do), her acting is what sets her apart from most. Mako Oda, Yuko Shiraki, Kaoru Shimazu, Hitomi Enjoji likewise. Maybe they're faking but they sure convince me!

 

[Zhonda]

I'm in the "no acting camp" like "Director HAMAR"

Thanks for this. Checked out the PH content; it’s impressive. He’s got some older JAVs that I’ll try too find. Any other directors that specialize in this “documentary” style?

Videos By Hamar - JAVLibrary

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[headcrusher]

There are cuts in JAV, even in one scene. With just a camera angle, they can fill up her pussy with water. They already use that trick for fake cum.

They can't even fake cum in a not ridiculous way so I can't believe they are able to fake squirt. And I'm talking about scenes where the girl is standing. Also, if that were true they would do it with every actress. But they don't.

 

[headcrusher]

The best Jav make you believe the actors are really into it and are having great sex. It could be that they are just acting, but one thing I've noticed is the "face flush" when a woman orgasms. You can't fake that. While I don't want to get into a discussion of whether you find Reiko Sawamura attractive (I do), her acting is what sets her apart from most. Mako Oda, Yuko Shiraki, Kaoru Shimazu, Hitomi Enjoji likewise. Maybe they're faking but they sure convince me!

I agree. Japanese producers are really bad at basic faking, so I don't believe they are able to fake "little" details.
There's a series, BLOR, where in a lot of videos you see face blush... but not always. You could say the room is too hot (and that's true) but the same producer has another series (idr its name) where they star really amateur actresses. And you see the same "acting".

 

[Not2srius]

There are cuts in JAV, even in one scene. With just a camera angle, they can fill up her pussy with water. They already use that trick for fake cum.


His work is called "gonzo porn". What they do mostly in western porn. He prepares how he will perform, the positions, the camera angles. Not to mention that the girl doesn't find the actor attractive, so the "connection" is only professional. The girl is there to get paid and move on.

They just get hot because of the lights and the room temperature. Run in a room for few mins, you'll get the same result.

I can tell when my wife cums because her face flushes briefly and I can see the same thing on video. Yes, my wife is asian.

 

[twenie]

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His work is called "gonzo porn". What they do mostly in western porn. He prepares how he will perform, the positions, the camera angles. Not to mention that the girl doesn't find the actor attractive, so the "connection" is only professional. The girl is there to get paid and move on.
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I don't understand why you keep pushing that everything in JAV must be only for cold hard cash and nobody actually wants to be there if they can. Just like in other jobs, there are people who love what they are doing. BTW I didn't mention aynthing about connection, what I love is people showing some emotions.

And it could be just not in gonzo, the director could film couples, for example, or perhaps gather people (male and female) who want to have a risky orgy with strangers. Have you ever used matchmaking apps/sites? Females also seek casual sex just like males.

 

[twenie]

Maybe reading interviews of former actresses and documentaries about how the porn industry works is a better way to know how it works rather than making an opinion just by watching a movie.

That's exactly what I thought, you watched some interviews or documentaries and it shattered you mind and changed you view on porn forever LOL. Then you generalized that it must be like that in every aspect of porn everywhere.

I never base my porn on girls that I idolize or any specific fetish, I just want to watch people having fun together.

There are girls who shoot themselves voluntarily on twitter or other platform solely because they like it and want people watch them without taking any money. Those girls (and guys) are the kind of performers that I like and their self shoot videos are already "porn enough" that I like to watch.

 

[twenie]

Lol, it's the opposite, it shows how the porn industry is. But a lot of guys watching porn don't like seeing the reality (just see how people insult you when you reveal the fake cum/dick tricks, with proof. Sexual misery is a real thing and makes some people crazy lmao).
And it's not actresses I followed. It's like saying electric cars are good for the planet even if documentaries show how the production pollutes the soils where the minerals are extracted (with proof). It's not because what we advertise you to sell you products seems good that the reality is like that.

If porn is a career choice (lol), why so many actresses ask to remove their movies from websites ? Or try to pretend they never did it (by blocking people asking about it on Twitter for example), while it's the only reason they got their following (for their onlyfan account) or "cosplay career".

Sure, there are girls that are uploading nudes and stuff on Reddit for example. But I don't count faceless stuff as a "porn career".

The thing is, I may be unlike your average porn fans who follow actresses, studios, genre, or what not that you imagine. I basically just like seeing people have fun together. What good for me could be from the industry, pro-am like on FC2, or simply from amatuers in Pornhub.

This the reason my porn "library" is very limited since studios usually don't produce the kind of porn that I like.

Yes, porn career usually may not be a choice for the performers. But since you have watched documentaries/interviews about porn, here in this forum Inertia from Zenra also published their own interviews which are interesting to read. There you can see that it's not all doom and gloom (chicken farming documentaries are always doom and gloom, but not all chicken "farms" are huge factories which supply KFC and the like). Some actresses do like their job based on those interviews (though anyone can argue that it's all lies). I remember Anri Okita saying that she likes male performer finish by cumming inside her, but never in a gangbang and she doesn't like gangbangs.

 

[Taako]

Lol, it's the opposite, it shows how the porn industry is. But a lot of guys watching porn don't like seeing the reality (just see how people insult you when you reveal the fake cum/dick tricks, with proof. Sexual misery is a real thing and makes some people crazy lmao).

Sexual misery hahaha Some people can't accept certain things. They honestly believe the actresses rather have sex and not money. They think there's no cuts in porn(like movies) to set up scenes, move the cameras, redo scenes because actors forgot their lines, the director wants the actress to scream louder, water breaks for the actors, etc and etc.

If porn is a career choice (lol), why so many actresses ask to remove their movies from websites ? Or try to pretend they never did it (by blocking people asking about it on Twitter for example), while it's the only reason they got their following (for their onlyfan account) or "cosplay career".

This. I think only a small chooses to do porn because they need money for debts or help their families. If you can't move on like Ayumi, Hitomi, Yui, Momoka, or the countless others, then you might become a Julia, Reiko, Yumi, and Yui Hatano. The ones who can no longer do anything else.

 

[twenie]

@Taako if you are talking about my comments then just address me directly instead of saying "they" and talking through him.

BTW there are always people like you in forums who have some negative views about the forum's subject but amazingly are still there and commenting. Like, if you have such views about JAV production, if I were you I'd forget about it and do something better.

 

[Taako]

In my country, Dorcel and another porn producer (French Bukkake) got sued by actresses (over 40). Basically, they were forced to performed things that weren't scheduled. One girl had to do a gangbang with many dudes, and it wasn't supposed to happen. Sure, in the video, she might look like she "enjoyed" it by saying "fuck me, more" and all those lines, but the reality is completely different.

When I hear things like this, I'm so glad actresses are having laws passed and getting some type of protection. Men who complain about the law never are the ones experiencing such tragedies. And the women who are against the law should be glad they might never have to experience such dark reality of porn.
Just like the victims of Harvey Weinstein, porn isn't the only place where women are taken advantage of.

Because we just enjoy it for what is it, nothing more. We're not trying to pretend girls do porn because they want to film the best AV for their fans. We enjoy talking about our favorite actresses, movies and such.

This.

 

[twenie]

Amateur content is mostly pro material without a budget lol. By that, I mean that they are acting for the camera, to get a good video that will generate clicks and a following to sell onlyfans subscriptions and other things.

I provided you examples of people (male and female) who show their bodies for no profit, not onlyfans users. In twitter alone, you can easily find tens or even hundreds of this, limited by your searching language(s). Later on, some of these "exhibitionists" mave move to onlyfans/pornhub/whatnot if they want to make a business out of it.

Now let's move to "big budget" productions since that's what you seem to focus on. Studios like Knights Visual and Doku Enkai have been using unpaid actors who voluntarily perform (you can try to sign for it when they post their ad). At least on the male side (actors), that clearly shows that people do porn because the simply want to do it.

Flip the scenario, imagine that a studio makes porn for females. Now they are looking for girls and women who want to volunteer to perform in a "bachelor-like" porn theme with a handsome actor (just an example for a theme).

Those interviews, like Fanza does too (I think), are done for promoting their content. It's basically the same answers as what they say in their first movies (when the director does an "interview"). It's like saying what pro wrestlers (and now MMA fighters do that too) say when they are in promo is what they think.

Ok then let's move to "neutral" party, like this interview with Mikako Abe and this interview Rizu Suzuki from Nobita. Would you want to say that they are lying through their mouths too?

What you get in supermarkets come from that kind of farms too. At least cheap chicken/meat. in the US, I'm always surprised how cheap the chicken is. There is a reason for that. Why getting a camera in those farms is so difficult ? Because they don't you to see how bad it is. Chickens can't go outside, they're super packed, a lot are dying.

Now you began to distinguish by saying a condition ("at least cheap chicken/meat") because you know that there are free ranged farms. Heck, move to a developing countries and you will see much bigger variety of chicken sold.

Because we just enjoy it for what is it, nothing more. We're not trying to pretend girls do porn because they want to film the best AV for their fans. We enjoy talking about our favorite actresses, movies and such.

And I look for performers (girls and boys) who enjoy what they do because porn for me is not about fantasy, but watching people having fun together. You keep shooting this down because in your opinion from watching some documentaries, interviews, and stuff, all porn productions are bad and that could not happen.

Do you wanna say that no actors and actresses love their job in mainstream movie production too? If you focus on those negative news, docus, and interviews about mainstream movie production, I can imagine that someone will say that all actors and actresses perform only for money and if they could, they don't want to be there.

The world is not black and white. If you often generalize and think in simple terms, you will find yourself keep swinging from one end to the other in life.

 

[Taako]

Oh yeah that's true. I even remember Tsubomi talking once about how bad one shooting was (a bukkake movie I think). She was basically left alone off set, like she was just a product. And people also forget that abuses also happen in regular companies while it might look "normal" from an outside perspective.

Not surprise. Even well known actress are treated bad. Remember what Hitomi said after her retirement? She said how her body was abuse many times. Stuff like that isn't only physical but mental too.

Yes, those who don't show their faces might be that kind of people. For porn, unpaid actors are desperate dudes. It's just my guess but when you look at them, yeah, outside a porn set, they couldn't date girls like Asahi Mizuno or Julia.

Any actor working for free is desperate imo. I might do it once or twice for my fave actresses but after, I need some money.
Most unpaid actors don't get a handjob, suck off, or have sex. Many jerk off in the background. Yikes

Of course an actress will not say bad things about studios or the business, it would be stupid. However, once they're retired, their speech tend to change. While there are probably some nympho actresses, of course, they are probably not top actresses (more low rank actresses) and not the majority.

I have yet to see a working porn actress call out a studio. And if she does... she gonna be banned.

I never said all productions are bad and actresses and actors don't enjoy it. But from the comments I read here, a lot of dudes think what they see in movies is real. "She's shaking, so she likes it", "she's blushing, so she's into him for sure", "wow, she likes cum because she's smiling". It's pathetic.

Porn misery, as you say. It's why I stay away from the disgusting porn.
I want to keep pretending every girls loves sex hahahaha

The same insulted me and some others when we were "debunking" cumshots and porn tricks. "What do you know about porn ? You can't fake that ! You're an idiot". Then, uncensored pics leaked online where you could see fake dicks and all the fun BTS stuff. Those dudes were "shocked". Lol.

Yes. As stated, I think pixeled, censored, mosiac, fake dicks, fake cum, or whatever have served JAV well.
You are almost forced to believe things are real hahaha
Where it falls apart is those uncensored leaks and you see condoms, fake dicks, tubing, cuts, re-edits, and etc.

Also, it's not difficult to imagine yourself in an actress position. Would you be excited to be fucked by an old fat dude in front of a production team ? Let's say the loosers' Hero "Taku". Do you really think hot girls like Suzumura Airi or Ootsuki Hibiki are like "yeah, I'll be fucked by this guy today". No to mention that they are changing positions, angles, take instructions from the director every 2 seconds. So, it's not like they can do whatever they want.

This. I seen old footage years ago of american porn behind the scene with cuts, camera angles, and etc. If american porn do this, I can imagine JAV being even more extensive. Acting and story is a big part of JAV.

The actresses deserve a medal. While most are good at faking. Others are not.
We've all seen movies where the actress looks ill having sex with a guy. Not part of the script, not part of the movie. But realistically, it's on her face. It's apparent.

Reminds me of the Yui Nagese movie(I can't remember).
I swear she was giving the guy the deadest stare throughout the movie--even when she didn't have sex with him. Something bad went down, I'm sure.
Also that actor in other movies having sex with dudes and trans. Maybe he was a little too aggressive and she was piss? I don't know.

 

[Taako]

I think that only if you are popular, you have more power to pick your partner yourself. Shoko Takahashi probably did that because she never had scenes with the old fat frog Taku (I think). Some might just don't care as long as they are getting paid for that.

I believe both. They can be popular and choose. OR... do it for the money and not care.

In an english podcast, Kaho Shibuya said that some actors think they are "sex gods" and one told her "you gonna have an orgasm for sure". lmao, such idiots. That's why it makes me laugh when I see those guys on Youtube sharing "sex tips". They're probably the last people you want to get sex advices from.

Funny, because I believe another porn star said an actor said the same thing it seems these guys have a lot of confidence hahaha

Yeah I read some of their advice and really it's nothing outstanding. Stay fit, get plenty of sleep, blah blah
where it gets weird is the advice on how to get girls lol and make her beg for it in bed hahahaha

 

[headcrusher]

I'm revisiting some BLOR videos and the main actor is amazing. He always knows how to hit the spot of women. There are some videos where the girl just can't stop shaking.

 

[Zhonda]

revisiting some BLOR videos and the main actor is amazing. He always knows how to hit the spot of women. There are some videos where the girl just can't stop shaking.

Thanks for the pointer. At random I checked out blor-203. The actress seemed to have a “good” time keeping up with the male talent. At some points it looked like she’d start crying. Wanted to see her other JAVs for comparison but she only has two. Did the blor talent pound her right of a JAV career? Delicious thought.

Videos starring Aomine Iroha - JAVLibrary

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[headcrusher]

Thanks for the pointer. At random I checked out blor-203. The actress seemed to have a “good” time keeping up with the male talent. At some points it looked like she’d start crying. Wanted to see her other JAVs for comparison but she only has two. Did the blor talent pound her right of a JAV career? Delicious thought.

Videos starring Aomine Iroha - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

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BLOR actresses are mainly professionals so you have a plenty of videos where you can compare the actress performances.
There's another BLOR that is not BLOR but right now I don't remember its name. In those series I remember seeing real amateur girls.

 

[Zhonda]

BLOR actresses are mainly professionals so you have a plenty of videos where you can compare the actress performances.

I’m not sure what I want more, a rookie shocked by a pro pounding (a welcome to the big leagues), or the vet town bicycle that can still feel it if reamed properly. Lmao

I’ll start with blor-178 as a case study. Relatively new plain Jane; less than 20 titles credited, first one in June 2021. Blor really likes to dress them down, I suppose to give it a realism impact, but she’s a genuine plain Jane, crooked teeth and all. According to JL, blor-178 is her third title; she gets slammed and laugh/giggles when there are pauses in the action, as coping mechanism? I don’t like that but I understand it can be a thing for Japanese chicks. My homework now is to see whether she copy/pastes that performance in later titles; genuine or is she a faking at a Meryl Streep level? (fake fake fake fake, LOL).

Whatever the outcome, props to her snagging multiple gigs, though her last solo outing was Feb 2022. If they can’t coast on looks, the performance better keep us connoisseurs interested!

Videos starring Nakashima Atsuko - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

 

[headcrusher]

I’m not sure what I want more, a rookie shocked by a pro pounding (a welcome to the big leagues), or the vet town bicycle that can still feel it if reamed properly. Lmao

I’ll start with blor-178 as a case study. Relatively new plain Jane; less than 20 titles credited, first one in June 2021. Blor really likes to dress them down, I suppose to give it a realism impact, but she’s a genuine plain Jane, crooked teeth and all. According to JL, blor-178 is her third title; she gets slammed and laugh/giggles when there are pauses in the action, as coping mechanism? I don’t like that but I understand it can be a thing for Japanese chicks. My homework now is to see whether she copy/pastes that performance in later titles; genuine or is she a faking at a Meryl Streep level? (fake fake fake fake, LOL).

Whatever the outcome, props to her snagging multiple gigs, though her last solo outing was Feb 2022. If they can’t coast on looks, the performance better keep us connoisseurs interested!

Videos starring Nakashima Atsuko - JAVLibrary

www.javlibrary.com

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I love the fact most of them look like regular women, even if most of them are pros who look "good" (to me they all look good) in their other videos.

 

[headcrusher]

Finally found it. The other series that is like BLOR is RPIN. The structure of the videos is the same... pretty much everything is the same. They even share the main actor.

One is made by ブロッコリー/妄想族 and the other by リコピン/妄想族

but it's just the same, I don't know why there are 2 different companies