1st gif: Samantha Rone from Best New Starlets 2015 - Scene 2
2nd gif: Manami Aoi from FC2PPV-1311003 (EBOD-239) - final scene
is porn star really enjoy ?
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2nd gif: Manami Aoi from FC2PPV-1311003 (EBOD-239) - final scene
Since the thread got bumped, one thing I notice that is different between JAV and western in relation to female orgasms is that in JAV, the women almost always do the body shaking, be it faked or real. Where in western, they rarely do that. In fact, it's harder to tell when they're supposed to be cumming in western porn for that reason. All they really do is moan louder, if that.
I think that actually portraying female orgasms is not as big a priority in western porn as it is in JAV. They don't seem to care as much whether you as the viewer thought you witnessed one or not.
I think that actually portraying female orgasms is not as big a priority in western porn as it is in JAV. They don't seem to care as much whether you as the viewer thought you witnessed one or not.
I concur...
JAV really focus on giving pleasure on women. Well, I correct it: JAV really focus on women "feedback".
I wonder how many men don't know how to fuck because they've seen too much porn
. But it's ridiculous. The way movies are plotted is totally deformed because directors give priority to what you can see in the screen... but in a bad way, being the guy just a kind of sex robot.The best example is the huge proportion of facials vs creampies. People really think cumming in a face is hotter than cumming deep inside the woman while the two sweating bodies are touching? I doubt it. But the former gives you shots of the girls face hiding the guy...
And like that you can find a ton of examples.
"Western porn" (actually I mean American) still often features bitchy women who shout "Yeah, yeah, fuck me!" which is a total turn off, and not to mention that the guys are often jacked and only cum right at the end so the whole sex scene is more like a sweaty workout LOL. I can't get a boner to that, maybe would be good to play in my living room (when I have a huge flat screen TV) because their production value is often good so it's just nice to look at.
Now their ametuerish productions are sometimes the opposite and more akin to reality but they lack the production value. When I think about it, American porn excels in production value and you can even find them in 4k. Sadly JAVs have this censoring which becomes a huge distraction the higher you go in resolution and screen size.
Returning to the main topic, I do believe that some girls enjoy performing, for example like Nisaki Nakamura in KV-203 (she becomes like more intoxicated the longer she performs in that movie lol). Another one would be Konno Hikaru (found in KV-198 from the same studio), who always shows emotions in all of her movies. If the girls like to get close to the guys (and not just at the hips, but initiate kissing, hugging, and the like), then I like to think that they enjoy what they do.
Now their ametuerish productions are sometimes the opposite and more akin to reality but they lack the production value. When I think about it, American porn excels in production value and you can even find them in 4k. Sadly JAVs have this censoring which becomes a huge distraction the higher you go in resolution and screen size.
Returning to the main topic, I do believe that some girls enjoy performing, for example like Nisaki Nakamura in KV-203 (she becomes like more intoxicated the longer she performs in that movie lol). Another one would be Konno Hikaru (found in KV-198 from the same studio), who always shows emotions in all of her movies. If the girls like to get close to the guys (and not just at the hips, but initiate kissing, hugging, and the like), then I like to think that they enjoy what they do.
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So damn true ! And also how to please a woman. When I see how many still think "wow, she enjoys it, she's squirting" while :
1/ it's a JAV movies, so she just follows the script
2/ She's peeing.
Haha I agree ! You could almost imagine a coach next to them "okay, that's good, 10 more trust, come on, you can do it" haha.
Some are better actress than others.
Well with this thing I think it's real... at least in the cases I know. It's just that only a really small part of women "ejaculate" (or whatever is that) that way. Yesterday when cleaning my HDDs I saw the folder of an actress (idr her name lol). This girl can squirt... and pretty much in every video they made her squirt. Several times per scene.
There's no way the urethra can expel the amound of liquid some actresses squirt.
But also the woman doesn't need to squirt to get pleasure or something like that.
Yes, but I'm in the "no acting camp" like "Director HAMAR" (his works were also resold and rebranded by 1pondo/dreamroom/etc. back then). He shoots pro-am videos where there's no acting, just him having sex with a JAV actress.
Fortunately, he has a pornhub page today and even writes about it:
I am a Japanese porn director"HAMAR", I've always been committed about porn works and I hate acting. What I want to see is the real sexual appearance of the woman. I think that my way of thinking is heresy, but I think that the real attraction of SEX is "do it seriously, feel it seriously". I think that only people who understand want me to see my work.I plan to send a video from my pornhub that I personally shot and saved. Please have a look once! I would be happy if you notice that it is a special video work that does not exist anywhere.Thank you.
I think interestingly, this could be a genre itself where there's ironically just very small amount of directing by a director.
The best Jav make you believe the actors are really into it and are having great sex. It could be that they are just acting, but one thing I've noticed is the "face flush" when a woman orgasms. You can't fake that. While I don't want to get into a discussion of whether you find Reiko Sawamura attractive (I do), her acting is what sets her apart from most. Mako Oda, Yuko Shiraki, Kaoru Shimazu, Hitomi Enjoji likewise. Maybe they're faking but they sure convince me!
Thanks for this. Checked out the PH content; it’s impressive. He’s got some older JAVs that I’ll try too find. Any other directors that specialize in this “documentary” style?
Videos By Hamar - JAVLibrary
There are cuts in JAV, even in one scene. With just a camera angle, they can fill up her pussy with water. They already use that trick for fake cum.
His work is called "gonzo porn". What they do mostly in western porn. He prepares how he will perform, the positions, the camera angles. Not to mention that the girl doesn't find the actor attractive, so the "connection" is only professional. The girl is there to get paid and move on.
They just get hot because of the lights and the room temperature. Run in a room for few mins, you'll get the same result.
They can't even fake cum in a not ridiculous way so I can't believe they are able to fake squirt. And I'm talking about scenes where the girl is standing. Also, if that were true they would do it with every actress. But they don't.
I agree. Japanese producers are really bad at basic faking, so I don't believe they are able to fake "little" details.
There's a series, BLOR, where in a lot of videos you see face blush... but not always. You could say the room is too hot (and that's true) but the same producer has another series (idr its name) where they star really amateur actresses. And you see the same "acting".
I can tell when my wife cums because her face flushes briefly and I can see the same thing on video. Yes, my wife is asian.
I don't understand why you keep pushing that everything in JAV must be only for cold hard cash and nobody actually wants to be there if they can. Just like in other jobs, there are people who love what they are doing. BTW I didn't mention aynthing about connection, what I love is people showing some emotions.
And it could be just not in gonzo, the director could film couples, for example, or perhaps gather people (male and female) who want to have a risky orgy with strangers. Have you ever used matchmaking apps/sites? Females also seek casual sex just like males.
Maybe reading interviews of former actresses and documentaries about how the porn industry works is a better way to know how it works rather than making an opinion just by watching a movie.
That's exactly what I thought, you watched some interviews or documentaries and it shattered you mind and changed you view on porn forever LOL. Then you generalized that it must be like that in every aspect of porn everywhere.
I never base my porn on girls that I idolize or any specific fetish, I just want to watch people having fun together.
There are girls who shoot themselves voluntarily on twitter or other platform solely because they like it and want people watch them without taking any money. Those girls (and guys) are the kind of performers that I like and their self shoot videos are already "porn enough" that I like to watch.
Lol, it's the opposite, it shows how the porn industry is. But a lot of guys watching porn don't like seeing the reality (just see how people insult you when you reveal the fake cum/dick tricks, with proof. Sexual misery is a real thing and makes some people crazy lmao).
And it's not actresses I followed. It's like saying electric cars are good for the planet even if documentaries show how the production pollutes the soils where the minerals are extracted (with proof). It's not because what we advertise you to sell you products seems good that the reality is like that.
If porn is a career choice (lol), why so many actresses ask to remove their movies from websites ? Or try to pretend they never did it (by blocking people asking about it on Twitter for example), while it's the only reason they got their following (for their onlyfan account) or "cosplay career".
Sure, there are girls that are uploading nudes and stuff on Reddit for example. But I don't count faceless stuff as a "porn career".
The thing is, I may be unlike your average porn fans who follow actresses, studios, genre, or what not that you imagine. I basically just like seeing people have fun together. What good for me could be from the industry, pro-am like on FC2, or simply from amatuers in Pornhub.
This the reason my porn "library" is very limited since studios usually don't produce the kind of porn that I like.
Yes, porn career usually may not be a choice for the performers. But since you have watched documentaries/interviews about porn, here in this forum Inertia from Zenra also published their own interviews which are interesting to read. There you can see that it's not all doom and gloom (chicken farming documentaries are always doom and gloom, but not all chicken "farms" are huge factories which supply KFC and the like). Some actresses do like their job based on those interviews (though anyone can argue that it's all lies). I remember Anri Okita saying that she likes male performer finish by cumming inside her, but never in a gangbang and she doesn't like gangbangs.
Sexual misery hahaha Some people can't accept certain things. They honestly believe the actresses rather have sex and not money. They think there's no cuts in porn(like movies) to set up scenes, move the cameras, redo scenes because actors forgot their lines, the director wants the actress to scream louder, water breaks for the actors, etc and etc.
This. I think only a small chooses to do porn because they need money for debts or help their families. If you can't move on like Ayumi, Hitomi, Yui, Momoka, or the countless others, then you might become a Julia, Reiko, Yumi, and Yui Hatano. The ones who can no longer do anything else.
@Taako if you are talking about my comments then just address me directly instead of saying "they" and talking through him.
BTW there are always people like you in forums who have some negative views about the forum's subject but amazingly are still there and commenting. Like, if you have such views about JAV production, if I were you I'd forget about it and do something better.
BTW there are always people like you in forums who have some negative views about the forum's subject but amazingly are still there and commenting. Like, if you have such views about JAV production, if I were you I'd forget about it and do something better.