JAV Gossips

[jwlim80]

http://avjinken.jp/

There's an online portal for the girls to apply an application to cease sales of existing releases now.

Press release :-
https://www.bengo4.com/internet/n_7464/

 

[paparoach408]

Did Shina Sora leave Eririka Katagiri for Aya Miyazaki? I see them alot together on social media. Are they just friends or are they now the big lesbian couple in JAV like Shina and Eririka use to be?

other way around, Eririka left her and I think moved out of japan, Shiina dating Aya Miyazaki is probably true

 

[paparoach408]

http://avjinken.jp/

There's an online portal for the girls to apply an application to cease sales of existing releases now.

Press release :-
https://www.bengo4.com/internet/n_7464/

going to be interesting to see how this goes, there are prexisting contracts with a lot of girls, and depending on the language could be the big deciding factor, unless they can come up with a valid claim of coercion. I really think this probably won't do much(because of contracts) until there is a major legal ruling

 

[whitelily]

other way around, Eririka left her and I think moved out of japan, Shiina dating Aya Miyazaki is probably true

I can't be the only one who thinks that Shiina and Eririka's relationship was more a business thing? They had odd chemistry in some of their stuff.

 

[Supmop]

I can't be the only one who thinks that Shiina and Eririka's relationship was more a business thing? They had odd chemistry in some of their stuff.

you're not the only one, its obvious marketing trick

going to be interesting to see how this goes, there are prexisting contracts with a lot of girls, and depending on the language could be the big deciding factor, unless they can come up with a valid claim of coercion. I really think this probably won't do much(because of contracts) until there is a major legal ruling

interesting to see yakuza involvement in this

no matter how good the contracts are, there will be more girls who claimed they was forced by mr x or mr bean to do porn

 

[paparoach408]

I can't be the only one who thinks that Shiina and Eririka's relationship was more a business thing? They had odd chemistry in some of their stuff.

They where posting pics together like a year before they did any vids together, and Erika did bring Shiina into the industry. Plus wouldn’t it be awkward screwing your significant other on camera in front of others?

 

[kharo88]

there will be more girls who claimed they was forced by mr x or mr bean to do porn

Stop it! Mr. Bean would never force anyone to do porn.

 

[jwlim80]

going to be interesting to see how this goes, there are prexisting contracts with a lot of girls, and depending on the language could be the big deciding factor, unless they can come up with a valid claim of coercion. I really think this probably won't do much(because of contracts) until there is a major legal ruling

Except that there are other valid excuses on the form :-



http://avjinken.jp/dl/form/form.pdf

They accept excuses such as being doxxed, doing porn for student expenses, getting married, job switching and social discrimination.

Like the previous contract, they are making it easy for women to get out of porn.

 

[paparoach408]

Except that there are other valid excuses on the form :-


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http://avjinken.jp/dl/form/form.pdf

They accept excuses such as being doxxed, doing porn for student expenses, getting married, job switching and social discrimination.

Like the previous contract, they are making it easy for women to get out of porn.

Valid enough to break a contract? You can make whatever excuse you want, but if they had valid contracts with no correction there’s not much legal recourse to get shit removed. Like “I got married I want my shit taken down” then a studio can be like you can pay us back or it stays up because you had a valid contract. The legality of these contracts are what will decide how effective this thing will be

 

[jwlim80]

Valid enough to break a contract? You can make whatever excuse you want, but if they had valid contracts with no correction there’s not much legal recourse to get shit removed. Like “I got married I want my shit taken down” then a studio can be like you can pay us back or it stays up because you had a valid contract. The legality of these contracts are what will decide how effective this thing will be

It's up to the lawyers to argue that out. There's even a disclaimer in the form that state there's no promise that the takedown will be successful if the studio and agency is found to abide all the existing rules and guidelines.

But given how there's a string of delisting and takedowns recently and that they dare to put those reasons as choices on a form accessible by anyone online, they must have some measures of confidence for success.

In any case, people here can take comfort in knowing that the title would have been download by tens of thousands before it had been delisted and even more after that.

 

[ball7]

http://www.tokyokinky.com/adult-video-star-noa-takeuchi-disappears/

Kinky is a bit late with the news

 

[ball7]

other way around, Eririka left her and I think moved out of japan, Shiina dating Aya Miyazaki is probably true

https://twitter.com/ayaaya_miyazaki?lang=ja - The banner on Aya's twitter is of them together and they have recently shot a dvd together.
So I think they are together.

 

[jwlim80]

https://japan.cnet.com/article/35115056/

DMM will cease to carry adult material come March 1st to focus on other areas such as English coaching and 3D printing. A new sister company Digital Commerce will inherit all current adult contents of DMM.
Rumour is that this is the first step to legitimize the DMM name and get it listed but the PR person deny the claim.

 

[Supmop]

But given how there's a string of delisting and takedowns recently and that they dare to put those reasons as choices on a form accessible by anyone online, they must have some measures of confidence for success.

current situation are much more in girls favour, they can took the money get retire and make excuses so all their porn history will be deleted

hmm ... how yakuza involvement in this ??

Stop it! Mr. Bean would never force anyone to do porn.

maybe next some of them will claim there are forced by Mr Trump

 

[paparoach408]

It's up to the lawyers to argue that out. There's even a disclaimer in the form that state there's no promise that the takedown will be successful if the studio and agency is found to abide all the existing rules and guidelines.

But given how there's a string of delisting and takedowns recently and that they dare to put those reasons as choices on a form accessible by anyone online, they must have some measures of confidence for success.

Like I said when I originally said something about it, I don't know how much will really happen until a court case happens and sets the standard.

 

[jwlim80]

current situation are much more in girls favour, they can took the money get retire and make excuses so all their porn history will be deleted

So whose side are you on ? The girls or the business ?

Like I said when I originally said something about it, I don't know how much will really happen until a court case happens and sets the standard.

A trial in the court is a drawn out expensive affair which neither the girl, the agency nor the studio could afford. It's more likely that majority of the incidents will be settled out of court.

In any case, what we have seen in the media is only the things that favored the girls to put a positive light on the whole affair. There's nothing on the business side. And as we all know, nothing is ever so simple in life.

 

[Supmop]

So whose side are you on ? The girls or the business ?

none of them

 

[paparoach408]

So whose side are you on ? The girls or the business ?



A trial in the court is a drawn out expensive affair which neither the girl, the agency nor the studio could afford. It's more likely that majority of the incidents will be settled out of court.

In any case, what we have seen in the media is only the things that favored the girls to put a positive light on the whole affair. There's nothing on the business side. And as we all know, nothing is ever so simple in life.

Studio(aka Hokuto and SOD) could afford it, girl couldn't that could be the gamble they make.

The thing is, the only bad thing about this affair is the coercion, which if girls got coercied then yes there stuff should be pulled off, but the ones who have not would be doing it for "selfish" gains, and if they want to do that then they should pay back what they earned, like if you go in willingly and have regret later on that's on you.

 

[jwlim80]

Studio(aka Hokuto and SOD) could afford it, girl couldn't that could be the gamble they make.

The thing is, the only bad thing about this affair is the coercion, which if girls got coercied then yes there stuff should be pulled off, but the ones who have not would be doing it for "selfish" gains, and if they want to do that then they should pay back what they earned, like if you go in willingly and have regret later on that's on you.

Money might not be an issue, but manpower is. The time wasted by the staffs sent in as witness means delay in productions.

The way I see it is everything is setup as such to force the agency and studio to reconsider and be more selective in their recruitment. And one of the reasons why certain clauses in regards to business is not made known is perhaps to give the industry an advantage over the recruits.

 

[ding73ding]

I can't be the only one who thinks that Shiina and Eririka's relationship was more a business thing? They had odd chemistry in some of their stuff.

you're not the only one, its obvious marketing trick

I don't even know if there's a real distinction to be made here. Not claiming to know a lot about Japan's relationship culture (especially lesbian) but seems clear that it's quite different from our understanding in the outside world. How to understand "lesbian dating" in Japan? How is that different from regular BFF? (1) lesbian sex, mutual masturbation? Remember in Japan it's common for BFF, same-sex regular friends, even common teammates, classmates to take baths together or sleep in the same room or bed; and heterosexual boys may do things that you consider gay (2) exclusivity (and how's that defined?). Ultimately, in Japan (and much of East Asia) traditionally homosexual behavior (e.g. cock-sucking, pussy-fingering) doesn't count as "sex" in terms of relationship. (e.g. a married man/woman doing some hanky panky with same sex person isn't considered really cheating) Because it doesn't cause pregnancy.

So if lesbian relationship isn't really in the category as heterosexual dating/love/marriage, how can we use those language (X dumped Y and dating Z now; or A and B relationship is marketing trick)? It's pretty hard to distinguish between lesbian dating and other intra-JAV friendship that Tia talked about earlier. Unless somehow we know who's licking/fucking who.

Apart from the fact "lesbian relation" might be an oxymoron in Japan. There's another problem is that a "pure" relationship completely free of "business" is pretty rare in Japan. Most boys and girls pick a dating/love/marriage prospect/counterpart with a conscious consideration of business potential/implications. "Pure" romance is the matter of elementary school or high school stuff. "Freedom" isn't a right or even a luxury, "freedom" is a narcotic for the lower class/poor people "I have nothing I own nothing, I have no responsibility and all the freedom!" Sorry guess I am going off on philosophy/social commentary...

Anyway my point is that some of you (and Tia) are talking about "real" relationship, implying it shouldn't be "contaminated" by business or marketing. But I think it's impossible to draw a boundary between the two in Japan (and to less extent, it's still in East Asia), relations usually include business thinking (remember Shiina's agency/studio made a banner ad out of her relationship with Eririka) but calling it "marketing trick" miss the point that it's probably as "real" as any marriage.

Of course, there's a whole other level of a two-person relationship that might be closer to what is considered "love" in the West. But it's extremely private and there's no way for us in the interweb to know or discuss. For all we know Shiina might have such a relationship of the heart with Eririka but is fucking Aya now for a "marketing trick". Or she might have that with some dude who she had never slept with (despite having fucked quite a few AV sluts and most AV studs). We'd never know, nor do I consider it interesting even for a gossip.