Sorry about the postings, I just woke up and saw all the negative here and chip in my 2 cents while barely awake. Yeah, who are we to judge or sob and pity about when we don't know them and we stream and pirate sometimes, which is hated by av and porn in general. There are guys and girls that are genuinely happy and support the av industry while making good sex friends. There are shit one that's along and left out or get offended because they don't fit in while still valuing their body and despise lies and situation they're put in while believe they deserve more and better. Again it's hypocritically and shameful if agency exploit girls illegally or know they're dumb for money and fame and use the money to cheat and feed their family. Ironically, av actors and the higher up bts wouldn't want their family in the business either. It's only in Japan with a few korean and Chinese fake or posing as Japanese. I remember that okazaki interview a few months ago about her pov recalling her parents and bf reaction, which isn't shocking and I assume girls with good or trouble childhood experience would receive the same criticism in private.
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Thanks, I just want to say I'm not drunk or High, but i was probably going everywhere with different contrasting sides after waking up. there's more, but i just simplify it. This gossip thread that exposes?, question truth and moral really can kill the non-casual and a bit obsess/hardcore jav fans. The more i know, the more negative, hypocritical, and cynical the world looks to me. It really burst the bubble, but i mean just the best seller goddesses, who would have think they would waste their talent doing av? wtf is wrong with them and how could they live like that is probably What people that knows them might ask. Recently, there's a big female blue collar and ol debate scandal in Japan. Sexism is nothing new even in Hollywood, but it's manipulative when people learn that they earn less than men, deprive of opportunities even as far back as in school, etc. female objectification, dehumanizing, degrading or not. It can be their choice either to become a wannabe idol, fame attention, money for school or family support. It doesn't concern us nor do we have the right to judge since they don't care about it. Anyone from guys to girls really just want us to be polite, thank them, and support their godly works legally while dont stalk them or offend them privately outside their av persona.
There are good and bad ways to see this even for them. Some girls are naturally party sluts like riley Reid and ai uehara that would suck and tease thousand of men while acting innocent. Some might grow to regret it after retirement and marriage with the past haunting them as well as feeling guilty hiding it hoping it'll never be expose.
some ugly old men or bossess like agent and directors might be r**ist on cam with all those dumb scripts and there might be some exploitation going on with teens that doesnt know what to do with their lives. however, they probably dont see themselves that bad even if theyre taking advantage of the girls to feed their own family and lust. they might be heroes especially some directors and actors get a lot of cult following for being celebrity look alike or those view them as god with their outrageous talent. i remember pink movies back then was bad, but now is av. also, we got streamers and vloggers for kids. good or bad. it makes a lot of us happy on the surface when we dont overthink and question too much like some old prude. It's envy if we call them out for being disgusting freaks that doesn't deserve sex with hot young teens. It's not like they committed any crimes and in bts some girls tease the guy dick and have extra foreplays with these ugly Pedo like old men who some are even married. Some might be good dads and grandfathers. It's double standard too since theyre ok with other people gf and daughters, but not theirs.
It is heartless and people don't care. Just look at vloggers faking beef diss tracks and events for views online to promote their merch as well girls throwing in a few sexy photos then called out female objectification after trolls Harrass them. Logan paul from youtube posted a corpse from the suicide forest receive countless likes before a few a lister called him out then some people switched side and jump on the bandwagon to kill his career. however, negativity publicity is still good publicity for scumbags like him. Casual fans, white knight, social justice warrior, you name it will always find reasons to defend, accept, and protect their god/idols. Then there are politicians and real estate mongols getting off scott free from being racist, sexual predators, etc while some just all talk like James Gunn from Disney get fired for a few dirty tweets, which isn't okay as well and it's stupid for him to not use another persona while joking. Sure, they may have more dignity than pornstars and av idols, but they're also scumbag and pretentious hypocritical pricks as well manipulating their audience. I mean people love av even if the r*** goes all the way off script probably since idk if the actors mentality/mindset is during the shoot.
You can tell it's no longer acting anymore when you go all the way and really r*** some girl. It's different than when some a list actress show some nude and cried after being r*** while filming a certain movie. I mean if they're not working in av, would they be real r**ist. These r*** titles, which are plot heavy and different than some degrading western American bdsm shit, which some best pornstar like Asa Akira enjoy can really encourage more r***. Im not saying pornstars or av actors are bad criminal, but theyre different beyond the norm of casual gossip perverts. im sure some are good gf, mom, etc even if they enjoy these "shameful" activities. Also, some will argue it's wrong to say loli girls and midgets or ugly old men can't have sex with young girls and there's no right to criticize and deprive them of it since they finally get this opportunity. Besides, you're just jealous and gross out from what you might see online, but it's doesnt reflect them personally as a human in private. I agree with that, but it's not my thing. Av does have better acting than western porn because idols surrender their body and mind to portray a persona and learn to act as a vulnerable r*** victim. There's not one av idol that never been in any r*** title. I'm not saying people will r*** after watching av, but it's sickened and shameful to enjoy especially those working on set and those wrote/direct it for a living.
Not to mention loli Hentai, incest novels, and other merchandise like those crazy sex toy pillow that target lonely old awkward lonely guys. It's all weird even for non prude especially when you're not in it or have people that shares your views about it.
Also, I think Shimiken and another called ryo sawai once was caught or speculated to engage in sexual activity eight minor boys, so some could be former convicts though. I mean no good guys would really work in av on camera on bts with crazy ott scripts and props if they volunteerily chose to do it. Some excuses are I need to supprt my family, i want to change the world from being less of a prude, blah blah. i mean they Wouldnt want their daughters or wives doing Av porn. Although, some did have affairs and married them like tamike goro, which is common like America, but always end up in a bad divorce if there's no prenup. Fans might rejoice on their jobs since it's just a job that doesnt reflect them in private and other will envy and hate them for ruining their goddesses while they can only stream and jerk off. However, shimiken seen it all from eating literal shit, fucking fat gilfs, to real goddesses as well as fathering daughters before marrying his new wife @ha_chu, who ironically is a metoo work place victim. Anyway, veteran boys and girls lose themselves by acting nice and gentle before going full on r*** like fame fatass frog/jabba people like to refer him as. There's good and bad people and good and bad experience for everything. Even from the beginning of time, there are these dark things that just aren't well documented or too shameful to say while nowadays it's exposing everything on social.
Overall, r*** and exploitation scouting hits me hard when it's real. I'm sure there might be some fake one that tries to profit as well as those want to regain some dignity after regretting what they did when they're young.
General and lame cliche speaking, genuine support from friends and families are important especially for av idols working and retired. Some achieve Great fame and married nicely like sora aoi, Saori and okita while maintaining an acting/singing career. Even maria Ozawa struggled with gossip sleeping with phillipine royals, escorting in Japan after av, sex affairs with local celebrities get a hunk boyfriend and an decent gig as well as made up with her family like okazaki. Even if it's a non faithful and open relationship, you got to admit she have a strong mind able to live and work outside of av despite her past. The same with sora Aoi, akiho, yui hatano, ai uehara who are either known to fuck anyone of size, shape, age, race who Gain a massive following in china and Taiwan predominantly granting them invites to film stereotypes b movies, gaming events, and private company parties are raining in doughs. However, the fame and money can get tiring. They wouldn't film av if they achieve some fame before since a lot filmed gravure, commercials, can act and sing as well. Av is a stepping stone, so they're prepare to live with it. It give them the opportunity to act, sing, and perform in front of fans that genuinely like their talents or just there for their looks alone.
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Haven't posted a lot in while and I'm chipping in as I roll past the pages. I can say, It doesn't matter to us if we don't know them since they're not our gf or family member. All these events gossip, persona acting, goddess/celebrities obsession really irks av idols and pornstars in general. Just support their DVDs and events and stay out of their personal lives and give them some privacy is probably what they and their agency wants. I'm sure a lot of girls not doing av can be terrible fake human in public and slut as well. Like regular idols, surrender your social account, mind, and body to your agency and be obedient then you'll get more pay and offers. Av idols must really know how to act, sing, speak English or Chinese is a plus, + some side talent hobby like sport, art, magic since it's way too competitive with piracy and events. It's good it's only in Japan since they can monopolize the Asian market while Japan itself probably try to limit it's exposure or deliberately downside the industry.
Of course, acting, techniques, age, and looks comes in to play as well. Just lie. Av idols will not deliberately attack the industry unless theyre sour and depress after retirememt while not afraid of any shameful attack and retailiation. so far, no solid proof or exposing can kill the industry. Okita anri and minami kojima openly defend and support vocally in interviews and tweet while turn down coercing rumors. Rie takimoto and kouzai Saki are openly attacking the industry. Who to trust? There are those like mihiro and coco still Collab with av idols as well as sora, Yuma, Maria Ozawa using their av fame to pursue mainstream career. There are Saori that removes their av history by clearing their blogs and the distribution of their av titles for royalty reasons or hidden regrets. Saori obviously change her name to relaunch her career. There's also marica hase that always try to act like a teenager instead of a milf have no problems hanging out with av actors in public, which is a taboo since av idols relationship with bf, celebrities, are all keep tight secret. Even former av idol goddess like Aino and rio are playing low slowly fading away from social and sponsor events in favor of protecting their privacy. Those that are making money and surrounded by similar "friends" might not mind r***, affairs, until they're retired and go back to their old normal lives . Also, under contract and set atmosphere, they're not much they can do to refuse a shoot.
I feel like the way Japanese AV actresses promote and talk about their job is increadibly different than the ones from the US. In both countries the actresses are encouraged to lie/smile through their teeth and sell a false image but it seems worse in Japan. I wonder if it's because of being socialized differently in Japan.
For example, women are objectified and sexualized just about anywhere but it shows in different ways all across the globe.
Everyone in Japan knows chikan is a big problem and i've heard different stories from different Japanese women regarding the issue. What stood out to me is that some had a "it's bound to happen" or "what can you do about about? *shrug* mentality. Then you even had a couple women who think having women's only carriages are a female privilege. A PRIVILEGE! Some dudes seem to think so as well. Interesting mindset to have.
Japanese women are also way more feminine than their western counter part and it's rare to see women walk out of the door with a full face of makeup and Nice clothes. Women who don't conform are often looked down upon. There are different standards at work here.
Then you have school uniforms being heavily sexualized in pop culture and av, junior idols (with adult fans), low age of consent, idols in general, seeing all kinds of magazines with underage girls on display in conbinis.. Just imagine what this kind of thing must do to a girl growing up in such a society. These kind of things will become normal and you start to internalize it.
Not to mention that Japan is on the 104th place in the gender equality rankings, which should tell you enough about the way Japanese perceives women and how the women might perceive themselves.
Could this be the reason; why Japanese av actresses are less likely to speak out while they are in or even just out of the industry?
- why Japanese women are a lot more compliant and ok with being lurred/scouted into the AV industry?
- Why even the cuter and popular actresses do some crazy hardcore stuff, something which you don't see as much of in the west?
There is a reason why we in the west crack jokes about Japanese porn and why Japanese women are so highly sexualized.
I am a porn watcher myself so saying all these things could probably come across as hypocritical and ridicilous but I have studied a social science (Yes you can laugh at me haha) and I do realize that the reason why women want to appear in porn and or ok with being degraded like that for money is something that is socialized into them. I wouldn't want my own daughter to be a porn star and that should say enough. I am sure most wouldn't be happy with that.
Probably straying a bit here though it does seem to fit into the conversation we're having.
For example, women are objectified and sexualized just about anywhere but it shows in different ways all across the globe.
Everyone in Japan knows chikan is a big problem and i've heard different stories from different Japanese women regarding the issue. What stood out to me is that some had a "it's bound to happen" or "what can you do about about? *shrug* mentality. Then you even had a couple women who think having women's only carriages are a female privilege. A PRIVILEGE! Some dudes seem to think so as well. Interesting mindset to have.
Japanese women are also way more feminine than their western counter part and it's rare to see women walk out of the door with a full face of makeup and Nice clothes. Women who don't conform are often looked down upon. There are different standards at work here.
Then you have school uniforms being heavily sexualized in pop culture and av, junior idols (with adult fans), low age of consent, idols in general, seeing all kinds of magazines with underage girls on display in conbinis.. Just imagine what this kind of thing must do to a girl growing up in such a society. These kind of things will become normal and you start to internalize it.
Not to mention that Japan is on the 104th place in the gender equality rankings, which should tell you enough about the way Japanese perceives women and how the women might perceive themselves.
Could this be the reason; why Japanese av actresses are less likely to speak out while they are in or even just out of the industry?
- why Japanese women are a lot more compliant and ok with being lurred/scouted into the AV industry?
- Why even the cuter and popular actresses do some crazy hardcore stuff, something which you don't see as much of in the west?
There is a reason why we in the west crack jokes about Japanese porn and why Japanese women are so highly sexualized.
I am a porn watcher myself so saying all these things could probably come across as hypocritical and ridicilous but I have studied a social science (Yes you can laugh at me haha) and I do realize that the reason why women want to appear in porn and or ok with being degraded like that for money is something that is socialized into them. I wouldn't want my own daughter to be a porn star and that should say enough. I am sure most wouldn't be happy with that.
Probably straying a bit here though it does seem to fit into the conversation we're having.
Fan events are a bit more awkward than America where in America the girls act more like themselves since porn doesn't require any indepth acting while av idols require to be in a singing idol group nowadays to be successful.
For those who like to think Japan is full of sexual harassment and r*** think again
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women
"UNITED STATES
The only Western nation in the top 10 and joint third with Syria for the risks women face in terms of sexual violence, including r***, sexual harassment, coercion into sex and a lack of access to justice in r*** cases."
Or you want to compare r*** cases between country??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
US = 27.3-32.3 woman r***ing /100,000 population
Japan = 1-2 woman r***ing /100,000 population
Hint: JAV = movie for fapping, not based on real event
And about coercion, for that the girls will have to prove threat or fear of her life or bodily hurt
Example: do people who go to work every days can say they being coerced against their will?? can that people say the company use their paycheck as a hostage and coerced them to go to work??
It's simple, some girls have regret and they will say anything to make them self look as a victim
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/which-are-the-worlds-10-most-dangerous-countries-for-women
"UNITED STATES
The only Western nation in the top 10 and joint third with Syria for the risks women face in terms of sexual violence, including r***, sexual harassment, coercion into sex and a lack of access to justice in r*** cases."
Or you want to compare r*** cases between country??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
US = 27.3-32.3 woman r***ing /100,000 population
Japan = 1-2 woman r***ing /100,000 population
Hint: JAV = movie for fapping, not based on real event
And about coercion, for that the girls will have to prove threat or fear of her life or bodily hurt
Example: do people who go to work every days can say they being coerced against their will?? can that people say the company use their paycheck as a hostage and coerced them to go to work??
It's simple, some girls have regret and they will say anything to make them self look as a victim
r*** and sexual harrasment statistics aren't accurate in some countries, Japan is a great example of that. There are several factors that cause this.
- Shame culture, victims aren't as likely to come forward. Victim blaming is also a big problem.
- patriarchal bureaucracy
- Western countries are more progressive with women's rights and have higher conviction rates, which makes women come forward more often. The mindset and education towards dealing with r*** is different too.
- r*** laws only changed several years ago and even then it's a bit outdated compared to some western countries.
Just Google around a bit and you'll realize that the statistics aren't everything. On some websites they claim that r*** in some war torn African countries is way less than in Sweden. That Wikepedia page even states: "Statistics on r*** and other sexual assaultsare commonly available in industrialized countries, and are becoming more common throughout the world. Inconsistent definitions of r***, different rates of reporting, recording, prosecution and conviction for r*** create controversial statistical disparities, and lead to accusations that many r*** statistics are unreliable or misleading."
Most go still unreported.
Not saying that Japan is a country where this things happens more than elsewhere but to say that it happens way way less is a tad naive.
My previous post was my thoughts on the matter, just something that popped into my head and that I wanted to express. I am sure many people see it differently and that is ok
- Shame culture, victims aren't as likely to come forward. Victim blaming is also a big problem.
- patriarchal bureaucracy
- Western countries are more progressive with women's rights and have higher conviction rates, which makes women come forward more often. The mindset and education towards dealing with r*** is different too.
- r*** laws only changed several years ago and even then it's a bit outdated compared to some western countries.
Just Google around a bit and you'll realize that the statistics aren't everything. On some websites they claim that r*** in some war torn African countries is way less than in Sweden. That Wikepedia page even states: "Statistics on r*** and other sexual assaultsare commonly available in industrialized countries, and are becoming more common throughout the world. Inconsistent definitions of r***, different rates of reporting, recording, prosecution and conviction for r*** create controversial statistical disparities, and lead to accusations that many r*** statistics are unreliable or misleading."
Most go still unreported.
Not saying that Japan is a country where this things happens more than elsewhere but to say that it happens way way less is a tad naive.
My previous post was my thoughts on the matter, just something that popped into my head and that I wanted to express. I am sure many people see it differently and that is ok
Coercing or regret? Which to believe? There are good and bad experiences and cases for both. Av is not a normal job, so I wouldn't compare it to regular people jobs. I mean even if it's scripted with cuts and bts, but even not prude would question why would a beautiful girl with talent might waste herself in av by voluntarily playing a r*** victim that goes all the way. Idk how good of a human some of those creepy old r**ist are who always been typecast playing r**ist stereotypes. I mean they wouldn't want their family member in av and they make a living out of playing these roles. I don't know if they get hate or not, but some guys do get a lot of envy and respect for getting pay to fuck goddesses without dating. To me it's questionable and it bit going to far with all the r*** in av along with pairing creepy ugly and sometimes defective looking dudes in av. I'm not even talking about the midget, tran, or fat frog or fat black guy some people hate here. Yeah, they get a sweet gig and people envied them and feel bad for the girls.
Anyone who seriously believes America is as dangerous for women as a warzone where there has been real evidence of mass r*** by soldiers probably shouldn't be trusted ever again with anything. I'm not American. That list is insane. Those 550 'experts' should never be contacted for their opinions ever again.
For what this is worth :-
https://twitter.com/925tk925/status/1027313889535377408
"I had fun filming that....! Even if I had quitted, there are a lot people in the industry I want to give thanks to. I didn't quit because there are things I hate or dislike about the industry.
I heard that there are people going about how there are some titles are you would rather not watch ? I say, just go ahead and watch them already"
As of yesterday, the twitter account had been unlocked for the public. She seems to be in a good mood. Not sure if she had overcome her personal issues or it's an effect of taking her medication.
https://twitter.com/925tk925/status/1027313889535377408
"I had fun filming that....! Even if I had quitted, there are a lot people in the industry I want to give thanks to. I didn't quit because there are things I hate or dislike about the industry.
I heard that there are people going about how there are some titles are you would rather not watch ? I say, just go ahead and watch them already"
As of yesterday, the twitter account had been unlocked for the public. She seems to be in a good mood. Not sure if she had overcome her personal issues or it's an effect of taking her medication.
Wait, what??? 
Ok throw away all of the statistic number, what are we have left to quantify the topic?? Gossip articles??
Even if there are only 10% of r*** cases reported in Japan, at 100% Japan won't beat US number
About the articles above that's actually make sense
I mean in 2010 the US already have high r*** cases but still don't make in top 10, 2018 US in 10th place so that's mean the number grow higher significantly
I really don't understand
Japan number must be too low but US number must be too high???
How did you know that??
For why a beautiful girl join AV world, the same question can apply to why there are lots of girls all over the world showing their naked body via SNS without even getting paid
For fame, like, follower etc which some of them will regret it later
Ok throw away all of the statistic number, what are we have left to quantify the topic?? Gossip articles??
Even if there are only 10% of r*** cases reported in Japan, at 100% Japan won't beat US number
About the articles above that's actually make sense
I mean in 2010 the US already have high r*** cases but still don't make in top 10, 2018 US in 10th place so that's mean the number grow higher significantly
I really don't understand
Japan number must be too low but US number must be too high???
How did you know that??
For why a beautiful girl join AV world, the same question can apply to why there are lots of girls all over the world showing their naked body via SNS without even getting paid
For fame, like, follower etc which some of them will regret it later
There will be conspiracy theories where people come up with reasons like the av industry feel threaten, so they tell her to speak carefully. Idk, it also could be she might want to go back since av might be her only source of income if she wants to support herself comfortable and somewhat easier that way. There's no good in attacking the industry since she volunteer to sign the contract in the first place and it seems girls get more hate that way.besides,mood swing change one opinion, so it could be good for her to just accept and move on instead of regretting about it since she doesn't have kids or face any criminal charges.
It's the Internet. At least it's not endless trolling and pure hate like an ex member once did earlier this year. This isn't the first time minor gossip lead to some serious questioning about ethics and morals. It's hypocritical because gossip always involve speculations even if it's negative. it's not like anyone is attacking anyone online.
Either if you want to conspire a theory from a few negative tweets and news articles, so that you can feel sorry and pity them because they're experience depression/"suicide" tendencies because of unsupportive family/friends or just outright accept them as entertaining sluts that are happy and proud of what they're doing in the time being. There's nothing wrong with it since we dont know them and the tweets are just her current state of mind/pov. You can even argue they're av idols that only get respect from their goddess worshipping fans and ok sleeping around with agent, directors, and clients from what you see the girls can do. Everyone have their own way of respecting and accepting their av idols along with their own way of seeing them. Statistics is important with businesses, but it isn't everything such as crime activities. There are definitely a lot of other crime activities with missing people, war victims, etc that are undocumented or reported less than it should be especially when politicians want to appeal to the public that he did a good job this term. Also, r***- Besides fear of retaliation from powerful people that can do whatever they want And the further shame of being expose as an av idol that film r*** for a living. It's hard to believe they're coerced or really r*** like sakura aya and the metoo girls. some girls rather stay shit for decades especially when they're not sora Aoi, Maria Ozawa, yui hatano that can continuously find work. There are countless of cases of girls imprison in basement by their incest/pedo relative and a lot are too afraid to escape, murder the convict, or commit suicide until the breaking point is reach. Any speculation can be possible, but for koharu's case she's on/off in her mood. she could be happy with the atmosphere in av while regret it now after realizing or figure something out that change her mindset and mentality completely either from a shoot or someone that's close to her.
Yeah, speculations and proofs. at the end of the day we cant do anything for her since she we dont know her. some can leave her some supportive comments or legally support her dvds. that's it. we will forget this until she update again or another good or bad gossip surface either from some av idol social accounts or playno1 speculations. Soon everyone can become numb again and some just ignore/forget these and want to fap to their av persona along with their ott and overboard r*** acting. Nothing extremely serious happen and there's no proof of anything illegal activities happening yet. It's just we went to serious in to it and overthink it. I mean I don't think is that bad since av idols give us happiness and it's hard to avoid it when we learn something "bad" did happen. We're worried and we lost our mood. It's still far away from being an obsessive stalker and overprotective fan.
Just to clarify to the same few faces that continuously post in this thread rather than ignore these news and be a casual fapper. We are not personally attacking idols or other members, so that's a positive point I'm sure we can point finger at each other about who is being dumb, hypocritical, and egoistic self righteous dude, but just don't . the whole thread is about gossip and it always get pretty negative and serious. Soon we will move on when there's no update from the current hot gossip
Wait, what???
About the articles above that's actually make sense
I mean in 2010 the US already have high r*** cases but still don't make in top 10, 2018 US in 10th place so that's mean the number grow higher significantly
More victims reporting, broadening the meaning of "r***"
That doesn't necessarily mean there are more cases, just that they are nowadays more visible.