This is a good discussion, so i will add my two cents. a few guys here in this thread bring up the "r*** is power not sex" line of thinking and i don't think that's the case in full. it's all about sex and the need to be loved. not many ugly 70 year old women get r***ing in real life, sure that does happen from time to time but it's few and far between. most female r*** victims ( there are female on male r*** victims but that's a topic for another thread) are young, between 11 to 25 when women are at the peak of they're beauty. i think the drive to see f***rced sex by men and women comes from different places for each sex.
for men, i think it is about having sex with a woman you feel you could not otherwise talk to, let alone fuck. women control all aspects of sex in the real world (no matter how much they say otherwise) and all men know this. how else can a guy with no money that feels that he is a loser with no hope or life think that he can fuck a girl that's a 9, 10 or a 11? he overpowers her. because women are the true gatekeepers of sex and the limiting factor for they have the power to choose. they have the power to say yes or no. when is the last time you or a male friend you know said no to a woman regarding sex? have you ever? how many times have your female friends said no to men offering sex in the last 24 hours? 3 times? 4? 10? the power to decide and command are the only true ways to have power and that's the power that women wield in the sexual arena. i think most men hate that the weaker sex gets to have so much power, so they turn to the only way they think that they can fulfill there needs, and that's thru force. this is so deep, that men feel that they have no worth to women so deeply that they can't even see themselves being chosen by these high value women in there minds eye. they can only see themselves doing it thru r***. even in they're dreams. it's sad really. they see themselves as having no chance. the male need to r***, i think, comes from a hatred of the self not of women. these folks want women to love them but don't think they can find love, warmth or sex with out the use of force. i also think that's why it's a big theme in japan. i have the feeling that men there feel hopeless, worthless and unlovable. I've never been to japan but from my study's of they're culture, it seems self hate is a big theme in japan all thru they're history. from the samurai's code of self harming to manga and anime to the NEET and otaku culture of male self hate and shame, this idea of self hate looms large over every aspect of Japanese life.
i have a my ideas on why women seek out r*** imagery and how it comes from a different place but this post is too long as it is. i'll post it later. so what do you guys think of my little theory? i know some of you guys live in japan or have done so for many years. any truth to my thoughts?
P.S this is why the gokkun genre is so big in japan as well. it's a woman choosing to take your seed into her body, all while staring you in the face. making deep eye contact. i have heard from people that have been to japan and from Japanese people themselves that they don't really make eye contact in day to day life. i find that there is something to the fact that one of the types of porn that japan is well known for and at the top of is a genre that has as one of it's core acts long, unbroken deep eye contect. i love gokkun and i want to look these women in the eyes and more importantly i think is that i want them to look me in the eyes back. just look at my avatar pic.
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When I meet a woman, I take sex out of the "equation." And then what do you have? Because if sex is all she has to offer, then you'll see how shallow she is. And if you fall for someone who's shallow, what does that say about you?
It doesn't matter what she's wearing, if she's flirting or whatever. I don't see her as attractive. Sex is a woman's ultimate weapon and guys will do just about anything (legal and illegal) to get it.
But I take a different approach. I stay ahead of the game. To me, sex is mental, first and foremost. And then the body follows. A woman can wear a provocative outfit and it could be to entice men and actually be a fashion statement at the same time. And guys know this, but they STILL want to play that game. They let themselves get turned on. I don't let that happen if I don't want to.
I see a lot of sexual attitudes based on ego. On both sides. A woman can tease a man, drive him crazy and never ever planned on having sex, but wanted to see if she still had "it." A man might want to have sex with a particular woman because she holds some sort of status. (celebrity, most attractive etc...) Or he wants to "teach her a lesson" for turning him on and show who's in control.
Like most guys, I've had bad experiences with women, but I never thought of r*** or anything. And to your point, I agree, some of it is men having self hatred. But I also think, sometimes, a woman messes with the wrong guy.
She plays one game too many and he decides to put a stop to it. Because women can be bullies. Not necessarily in the physical sense, but they verbally and emotionally beat down someone until that person has had enough. When that person has had enough, I'm not saying it manifests itself in r***. But that has happened.
When women talk shit to me, in the short run, it might piss me off, but in the long run, I know they'll pay for it. Not by me, but they'll run into someone or something they never saw coming and then they're humbled.
We ALL pay a price for who we are. Nice guys like me, pay a price early on. But in the end, who do women run to when they want stability and someone they can count on? A nice guy.
But there are women who have played so many games for so long, they can't get out of it to appreciate a nice guy and they go back to a familiar pattern. And another thing is this, women biggest competition is younger women. I've been saying for years that each succeeding generation of women are more sexual aggressive than their foremothers.
Did I say women?
I mean females! Because you have underage females who know about sex at their age, much more than their mothers ever did! And for some of them it's not quality, it's quantity!
Women have taken a page out of the men's playbook and they see guys as just another notch on their vibrator. Because they see fucking as a way to feed their ego, not teasing. What good is that going to do them? They want a hard dick inside them. Teasing a guy until he gets an erection doesn't do them any good if they are aware that there's another girl out there who will take advantage of the situation they've created.
Because as they say, it's a "small world." They were times if you fucked someone outside your race, that was taboo, but now...
Since people can connect on a global level, they're intrigued and the race is a turn on, not a deterrent.
But back to the subject of r***. I don't think there's just one reason for why someone does it.