The Underrated or Severely Overrated Porn Stars Or Porn ANYTHING THREAD

[gregorsamsa]

So, I saw this recent thread here and replied, and mentioned our discussion here about Hamasaki Mao, and then I remembered Uehara Ai

She's probably been mentioned in this thread already, but how do you guys feel about her? I haven't seen a lot of her stuff, but my impression is that she's one of the pros, meaning that her fame might be well-earned. But, again, as someone who hasn't seen a lot of her work, it would be interesting to hear your opinions

Maybe share the movies with her that were surprisingly lame, i.e., you expected much more being that it's Uehara Ai? Is she underrated, fairly-rated, overrated?

I have only seen like three movies with her, and they all left me satisfied (just to remind you, I'm mostly interested in oral stuff, so...): REAL-535, XRW-149 and ASW-186

 

[BDrake]

So, I saw this recent thread here and replied, and mentioned our discussion here about Hamasaki Mao, and then I remembered Uehara Ai

She's probably been mentioned in this thread already, but how do you guys feel about her? I haven't seen a lot of her stuff, but my impression is that she's one of the pros, meaning that her fame might be well-earned. But, again, as someone who hasn't seen a lot of her work, it would be interesting to hear your opinions

Maybe share the movies with her that were surprisingly lame, i.e., you expected much more being that it's Uehara Ai? Is she underrated, fairly-rated, overrated?

I have only seen like three movies with her, and they all left me satisfied (just to remind you, I'm mostly interested in oral stuff, so...): REAL-535, XRW-149 and ASW-186

Ai Uehara is definitely a legend for a reason.

 

[Taako]

Aimi Yoshikawa. A beloved jav starlet. Adore by fans across the board.
Beautiful face. Knockout body. Big, naturals boobs! Gorgeous, shapely ass.
Very likable and sweet in her videos. Try hard to give you the best performances...

And yet, for me, she sits on the fence of underrated and overrated.

I like at her movies(if they pop in my feed) then I become curious again to see her.

BUT after, I'm left somewhat frustrated because I feel she has the potential for so much more.

She's not Julia who dodges, RION who worry more about her appearances,
or Mio the super, dead fish boring actress.

But Aimi just seem like she didn't want to be there... in porn I mean. Her performances while not bad
seemed like she was holding back in most of her movies. My personal opinion.

So... with that said. She is slightly overrated in her performances but underrated in her
beauty and gorgeous body. If she's into escorting, she will make more money there as a result.

She had way too much potential and was clearly there for the money only, moreso than the
experience of the industry. If that makes sense.

I don't know. But when she retired, I was not surprised.

 

[Taako]

So, I saw this recent thread here and replied, and mentioned our discussion here about Hamasaki Mao, and then I remembered Uehara Ai

She's probably been mentioned in this thread already, but how do you guys feel about her? I haven't seen a lot of her stuff, but my impression is that she's one of the pros, meaning that her fame might be well-earned. But, again, as someone who hasn't seen a lot of her work, it would be interesting to hear your opinions.

There is no question, Uehara Ai deserves all the praises.
She gave it her all to the industry and gave us solid roles even if they didn't matched her
energy. She was a solid actress. She loved her fans and was graceful for opportunities to be part
of the industry.
She was a role model for those coming to the industry. She had great energy and
if any was underrated about her was her body.

Uehara Ai had a nice, somewhat big butt and big breasts. She wasn't too skinny and she was a good
size gal that I figure that would give it to you as much as you give her.

Her bj scenes were great and she seemed to love performing her scenes with lots of energy.
Her pussy look very tasty and her butt was nice and fat.

She was/is a beautiful, natural looking woman. Very pretty.

Uehara Ai is not overrated. She is a legend and deserves that title.
She deserve endless retirement videos because to me, you just want more Ai.

 

[BDrake]

Aimi Yoshikawa. A beloved jav starlet. Adore by fans across the board.
Beautiful face. Knockout body. Big, naturals boobs! Gorgeous, shapely ass.
Very likable and sweet in her videos. Try hard to give you the best performances...

And yet, for me, she sits on the fence of underrated and overrated.

I like at her movies(if they pop in my feed) then I become curious again to see her.

BUT after, I'm left somewhat frustrated because I feel she has the potential for so much more.

She's not Julia who dodges, RION who worry more about her appearances,
or Mio the super, dead fish boring actress.

But Aimi just seem like she didn't want to be there... in porn I mean. Her performances while not bad
seemed like she was holding back in most of her movies. My personal opinion.

So... with that said. She is slightly overrated in her performances but underrated in her
beauty and gorgeous body. If she's into escorting, she will make more money there as a result.

She had way too much potential and was clearly there for the money only, moreso than the
experience of the industry. If that makes sense.

I don't know. But when she retired, I was not surprised.

I agree. Her performances were boring, despite her beauty and body.

 

[gaijin2006]

Taako went berserk answering vesania999
I was like


I don't know if my perception is correct but I feel that Madonna is very much a vanilla studio betting a lot on big (both in terms of popularity and curves) actresses like Julia
I might be totally wrong, but that's the kind of perception I have for some reason

So, they will naturally be... too bland for most of here? Writing that, I assume, of course, that the majority of users here have gone past vanilla in their preferences. And I would say that in the West, this might be true. But I don't have any proof, Taako-san

Like, if you ask me to name some of the other studios I know (by memory, so no looking anywhere except for checking if I'm correct about the studio name and not mixing up the studio and one of its labels) and give a short impression of each... Note beforehand that I'm mostly interested in oral stuff in JAV, so...

• Natural HIgh — lots of creativity, quality filming, but nothing "too extreme"
• Hunter — possibly the best choice for those who don't want "plain vanilla" but something like "vanilla with topping"; I feel that it says a lot
• DANDY — possibly one of the top studios, with quite creative works in different situations, from household stuff, to hospitals, to flight cabins (I personally feel that they focus a lot on the nursing stuff, which I love — or maybe I just watch the nursing stuff mostly, hence the distorted perception; also, I would say that if SOD and DANDY weren't different studios, I would not be surprised: I mean, their stuff feels very similar to me)
• Radix (NEO and GUN labels among others) — now this one might be not that creative in terms of "large-scale projects" (compared to Rockets etc.) but they are definitely not vanilla; they're more like hardcore gonzo in the West; niche stuff
• Rocket — lots of creativity, gave me a lot of "that's-Japan-they're-mad boners"; possibly a big studio, big budgets and projects
• SOD — possibly one of the giants, lots of creativity as well, big budgets, top actresses, huge projects
• Real Works — possibly one of the best studios in terms of overall "quality feel" of their titles; clearly more on the fetish side but doesn't feel "too extreme"
• Office K's — possibly a bigger studio as well, has a lot of long-running series in lots of labels, lots of quality oral stuff
• SPC (aka asfur) — a niche studio for all of those who love gokkun and oral in general
• Sex Agent — specializes in oral as well, I feel; lots of titles, but very many of them might just be compilations as the study in my thread linked below shows; even if they're just compiling stuff, they are also quite creative
• Fitch — the "glamorous" one, high-quality works but not much niche stuff, more like gonzo but with style
• Waap — more like niche, quality oral stuff
• Janesu — same, kinda niche, lots of oral stuff as well

I'm sure that I missed a lot of big names, but these are the ones I was able to remember without looking at any lists. I would say that if we're talking about creativity and really high quality, I would nominate the following to the top 5, not in any particular order: SOD, Rocket, Real Works, Office K's, Natural High. And if we're talking about the niche stuff, clearly, the top 3 would be: Radix, SPC, Sex Agent (the last one I would call niche simply because of the number of themes it covers, from armpit licking to cumming on all kinds of clothes)

Obviously, nominating based on an incomplete list is also outrageous, but I feel that it's still interesting to share our views on that

P.S. I noticed that I wanted to write something more about the DANDY studio, that's why there was a "hanging" comma there; so, I have now filled that "gap"

Pretty spot-on. I find Hunter to be my personal favorite. I like Dandy and Rocket quite a bit, and Natural High is sorta hit/miss. Sometimes I feel like SOD is coasting on their past success.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Yeah, I feel the same way about SOD too, even though I haven't watched that many of their works. It's still surprising to me why they haven't continued their Semen Collection Ward series... Well, there have been 5 parts, but I would have gladly watched 5 more... Maybe there that many oral-only JAV fans in Japan

 

[Taako]

Pretty spot-on. I find Hunter to be my personal favorite. I like Dandy and Rocket quite a bit, and Natural High is sorta hit/miss. Sometimes I feel like SOD is coasting on their past success.

I used to find Hunter tolerable, but like Dandy they are no longer good to me. Tolerable I guess.
Rocket just gotten so weird with their current titles, it's like more comedy than sex.
There is nothing sexy about it anymore.
Natural High still have some good stuff. More hits than misses imo.
SOD is indeed coasting from past success. I might take a look at their recent stuff to see what's appealing.

 

[gregorsamsa]

I used to find Hunter tolerable, but like Dandy they are no longer good to me. Tolerable I guess.
Rocket just gotten so weird with their current titles, it's like more comedy than sex.
There is nothing sexy about it anymore.
Natural High still have some good stuff. More hits than misses imo.
SOD is indeed coasting from past success. I might take a look at their recent stuff to see what's appealing.

What are your current picks then? I mean studio-wise?

I'm mostly just searching through key words and titles and tags, and checking actresses that I see recommended often, but I don't really know if any specific studios are pumping out high-quality stuff reliably. I mean, I keep finding cool series from different studios, but 90% of them have been made years ago

 

[headcrusher]

Am I the only one who despite hoarding +15TB of JAV doesn't know what series are from Madonna, SOD, etc?

From now on I'll pay more attention...

 

[gaijin2006]

Am I the only one who despite hoarding +15TB of JAV doesn't know what series are from Madonna, SOD, etc?

From now on I'll pay more attention...

If I remember correctly, Madonna is mostly MILF, older housewives, and Obasan porn. Not my cup of tea, but the nice thing about Japanese Adult Video is that there's pretty much something for everyone.

 

[headcrusher]

If I remember correctly, Madonna is mostly MILF, older housewives, and Obasan porn. Not my cup of tea, but the nice thing about Japanese Adult Video is that there's pretty much something for everyone.

Then I'm pretty sure I have some tbs from that studio because I love the classy mature vibe.

 

[Taako]

What are your current picks then? I mean studio-wise?

Natural High because even in my collection I seem to have a lot of the titles.

Bibian Studio. Lesbian titles recently.

Rocket I was a big fan but as I stated they have become too artistic and too many body swap titles.

SOD is still a go too for older titles too.

I'm mostly just searching through key words and titles and tags, and checking actresses that I see recommended often, but I don't really know if any specific studios are pumping out high-quality stuff reliably. I mean, I keep finding cool series from different studios, but 90% of them have been made years ago

 

[gregorsamsa]

Am I the only one who despite hoarding +15TB of JAV doesn't know what series are from Madonna, SOD, etc?

From now on I'll pay more attention...

There is some use in knowing the studios/directors, not just the actresses as studios and directors are often consistent in their styles, tropes, the angles they use etc., so if you liked a lot of movies from a certain studio/director, you might like a lot of the rest from them that you haven't seen yet. Like, if I want older high-quality oral stuff with the hottest girls, I would go to Janesu etc. Not all of their stuff is oral, but their oral stuff is top notch, IMO

I actually started paying more attention to the directors only recently, thanks to the advice I got in my BJ/deepthroat thread (link in my signature). Like, again, for oral stuff, Ani Nakamura is one of the best. He's the one who films the "Throat Pussy" series (e.g. XRW-696)

 

[headcrusher]

Talking about boring actresses... What do you think about Honjo Shuzu? Her beauty is astonishing but I've always found her performances kinda lacking.

 

[gregorsamsa]

There is a recent thread that relates to this, and there, I expressed my view on Japanese beauty. I took a look at Honjo Shuzu now, and even though she would kinda fit on my "Exotic Beauty" list in yet another related thread, I wouldn't call her astonishingly beautiful. Beauty is subjective, and yet, some girls (and guys) feel that they deserve special treatment just because they are beautiful. In my opinion, this is almost never the case with porn. Beautiful doesn't equal sexy, and sexy doesn't equal good wank material

Like, there is Tsukada Shiori whom I wouldn't call beautiful, and in some titles she doesn't even look that pretty, but boy, is she sexy. Then there is another almost unknown favorite of mine, Takagi Chisato, who is just plain-looking, and yet, for me, she is extremely sexy due to her skills and the contrast it creates ("such a plain girl has such great oral skills and lewdness potential?!.")

There are girls who are pretty, sexy and wank-worthy, and in JAV, I would name quite a few, including some of those in my Top 10, and some beyond that, like Amaharu Noa maybe, or Suzu Yamai, or Natsume Airi. Again, subjective, but I think those are all different things (i.e. beauty, sexiness and wank-worthiness are different metrics)

 

[headcrusher]

There is a recent thread that relates to this, and there, I expressed my view on Japanese beauty. I took a look at Honjo Shuzu now, and even though she would kinda fit on my "Exotic Beauty" list in yet another related thread, I wouldn't call her astonishingly beautiful. Beauty is subjective, and yet, some girls (and guys) feel that they deserve special treatment just because they are beautiful. In my opinion, this is almost never the case with porn. Beautiful doesn't equal sexy, and sexy doesn't equal good wank material

Like, there is Tsukada Shiori whom I wouldn't call beautiful, and in some titles she doesn't even look that pretty, but boy, is she sexy. Then there is another almost unknown favorite of mine, Takagi Chisato, who is just plain-looking, and yet, for me, she is extremely sexy due to her skills and the contrast it creates ("such a plain girl has such great oral skills and lewdness potential?!.")

There are girls who are pretty, sexy and wank-worthy, and in JAV, I would name quite a few, including some of those in my Top 10, and some beyond that, like Amaharu Noa maybe, or Suzu Yamai, or Natsume Airi. Again, subjective, but I think those are all different things (i.e. beauty, sexiness and wank-worthiness are different metrics)

Well, beauty is subjetive. But I think her appearance is just something that seems like doesn't belong to porn. I wonder if she once tried to get into modeling, TV or something like that.

 

[maload]

omg . i heard lot of people said that honjo zuzu is pretty ..
i really dont understand ......them .
but i like she is doing 3-4 p scen..
so this women is honjo zuzu or someone else

Well, beauty is subjetive. But I think her appearance is just something that seems like doesn't belong to porn. I wonder if she once tried to get into modeling, TV or something like that.

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[mattijo]

Overrated
1. Pretty much almost every single S1 exclusive actress. they only have big boobs and cute face but their performance are sooo boring
2. Yuna Shiina : I used to like her during her first run but ever since her comeback she became total boredom to watch
3. Julia : Just like Yuna Shiina, used to love her during 2010-2011 run. but now she's playing too safe and her movies are just boring
4. Mio Kimijima : I don't know how she's lasting this long. her acting sucks and her performance is mediocre
5. Eimi Fukada : Many already mention her. she's mediocre as hell
6. Aimi Yoshikawa : Same reason with Eimi Fukada
7. Ai Kano : Obviously fake bookbs and obviously fake tits. there's nothing real about her. she's just living sex doll. i might overlook her fakeness if her performance and acting is good but it's not

Underrated :
1. Saki Okuda : The only good actress currently under S1 payroll. a veteran with 10+ years experience yet not as famous as someone like Julia or Tsubasa amami and jav fans rarely talk about her
2. Hiraoka Rieko : One of the best mature actress today. she's might not too pretty but her performance is outstanding
3. Yuu Kawakami : She's better than Yumi Kazama and Chisato shoda combined. has wide range and can play any role perfectly

 

[Taako]

Overrated
1. Pretty much almost every single S1 exclusive actress. they only have big boobs and cute face but their performance are sooo boring
2. Yuna Shiina : I used to like her during her first run but ever since her comeback she became total boredom to watch
3. Julia : Just like Yuna Shiina, used to love her during 2010-2011 run. but now she's playing too safe and her movies are just boring
4. Mio Kimijima : I don't know how she's lasting this long. her acting sucks and her performance is mediocre
5. Eimi Fukada : Many already mention her. she's mediocre as hell
6. Aimi Yoshikawa : Same reason with Eimi Fukada
7. Ai Kano : Obviously fake bookbs and obviously fake tits. there's nothing real about her. she's just living sex doll. i might overlook her fakeness if her performance and acting is good but it's not

I can only respond to some of the things I am familiar with
so...

2. I would only agree after her comeback from retirement and honestly that doesn't hurt her
legacy.
Per-retirement Yuna Shiina is awesome. She gave some great performances. Nothing takes that
away from her imo.

3, 4, 5, 6. All overrated to me. I will say JULIA and Eimi are the better actresses in this group very easy.
Both started well but coast on their name. As do Mio Kimijima and Aimi Yoshikawa. Neither one is great
but Aimi tried harder than Mio. Mio just doesn't give a toss and couldn't act/perform to save her life.

Ai Kano. I admit sometime over-the-top big fake tits like hers can be a enticement in movies aka RION,
especially in certain attire/clothing. Like swimsuits, bras, sweater dresses, etc
Her big fake ass is also an enticement in certain scenes.
Her being used like a sex toy can be an appeal... BUT
omg she is another terrible actress in JAV.
COMPLETELY OVERRATED!
I have never finish her movies and have never seek them out unless it comes on my feed.
And on my feed it looks interesting until I start watching and quickly... very quick lose interest.

JAV might need those big over-the-top fake tits, sex toy bod of her, including her fans,
but she is not something I seek and think about at all. Bye bye, Ai Kano!

Underrated :
1. Saki Okuda : The only good actress currently under S1 payroll. a veteran with 10+ years experience yet not as famous as someone like Julia or Tsubasa amami and jav fans rarely talk about her
2. Hiraoka Rieko : One of the best mature actress today. she's might not too pretty but her performance is outstanding
3. Yuu Kawakami : She's better than Yumi Kazama and Chisato shoda combined. has wide range and can play any role perfectly

This is where my small criticism is might rub some the wrong way,

1. Saki Okuda is underrated but she is not a strong actress
Her performance is stronger and above Mio Kimijima, Julia, Emi, and Aimi. This is my opinion.

2. Hiraoka Rieko. I heard of her. Not my fave but she's okay. She is underrated to her fans. I understand.

3. Yuu Kawakami very underrated. Status: Legend. Not overly hot but pretty and great performances
through her long career.

Better than Yumi Kazama and Chisato Shoda... em... I would have to agree.
Yuu Kawakami does a lot more in her scenes. All 3 are good actresses and performances, too.

If people don't know her they need to see her videos. I think they will like what they see in my opinion.
I have movies with her and she always scratches my itch