deleted scenes / missing licensed episodes

elgringo14

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Nobody knows at the moment.

There are still facts to comment, like Kitty Media used screenshots of a "cut" scene in episode 1 on the DVD back cover. Second fact is that they claim 8 episodes, whereas it was always considered as 4 episodes (as Anime18 merged them two by two + edited them) in the older releases.

We have found an uncut version for the 1995 series (eps 1-4), but not for the 1997 series (eps 5-8).

I've always thought that since the english dub is based on the cut version, it can't be restored. But I may be wrong.

There was some speculation on 2ch about it, but nothing came out so far.
 

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Well someone said they spoke with John Sirabella, CEO of Media Blasters at Anime Boston and confirmed the Anime 18 version of Twin Angels. :(
 

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I can only confirm what pukidesu said. The scene (exactly 4 s) is not present in the R1 DVDrips. So what really happened?

This is my interpretation:

In Japan, Nankyoku 28-Go (which is by the way pun on the Tetsujin 28-Go famous series) was first a softcore manga made by U-Jin, a specialist in this kind of productions. It got an anime adaptation by Sente Studio, and was released on VHS and LD. As you can see in the cover attached, the title is classified 15+, not 18+. This means no explicit genital drawings can be shown.

In the anime, they used all the usual tricks, "laser sabers", symbolism, funny camera angles, except for this particular shot, which has mosaics. But the mosaics are drawn ON THE PICTURE. This means it is part of the original cels. So it can pass for a 15+ title this way, in Japan...

Now the title gets imported in USA. And the producers see this funny mosaics, unable to remove it (as it is part of the pic). So what next? They just removed the shot altogether. This is only 4 seconds, but this is still an edit. Funnily enough, the ending itself show this shot. :pandalaugh:

The title was also imported in Italy, released on VHS as "Superbambola 28" with no actual cut.

That problem was pointed out long ago by now-dead Animeprime, but we were unable to find a japanese or italian source, until now.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090620002810/http://www.animeprime.com/reports/mom28.shtml

I checked the whole episode, and there are no other visible cuts. Without any R2J DVD release, I'm afraid it will be hard to make a full uncut video with japanese audio. For the record, there are few cases similar to this one:

Dragon Pink episode 2 :
A well known R1 "censored" episode. All the censored scenes have the same "mosaics ON PICTURE" thing, check the faerie scene to be convinced.

The legend of Reyon - The God of Darkness/Shin Reyon Densetsu - Shikkoku no Majin :
No uncensored master was ever delivered abroad, so for the two releases of this episode, distributor chose first to hide the mosaics by making slow motion around them, then Happy Carrot just released it censored...
 

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haha, of course you cannot find it at WoH, except you have done 20 senseful posts, otherwise the access to that section is blocked...

I try to dl it now anyway, as I am a mod at WoH too that´s no problem for me...

elgringo14 has access to that section too.

It is a problem to post it here though, as it is US licensed material...
 

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It seems there is no uncensored version of ep.2 Dragon pink. But perhaps uncensored version exist in spanish vhs. Hispanime team took the spanish sound to its release from vhs.
 

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elgringo is on vacation for about a week, so we have to wait for his reply until he´s back.
 

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Dragon pink was license it seems by spanish "Anime X":
SELLO ANIME X
AX001 U-Jin Brand
AX002 Dragon Pink
AX003 New Angel
AX004 New Angel 2
AX005 Visionery
AX006 Visionery 2
AX007 Visionery 3
AX008 Marcha Atrás – Count Down
AX009 Elf (Young Wife Elf).
AX010 Dragon Rider
AX011 Noches de Acero
AX012 Parade Parade
AX013 Tenko Sei
AX014 Akiko: Maestras del Vício
AX015 Trouble Evocation – Vícios Infernales
AX016 Malos Entendidos
AX017
AX018 La Esclava de Minelva – Vol. 1 (The Fencer of Minelva).
AX019 Maestra para Todo
AX020 La Esclava de Minelva – Vol. 2 (The Fencer of Minelva).
AX021 Cuentos Calientes (Momone & Chu 2)
AX022 Cuentos Más Calientes (Dream Hazard & School Life 1 & 2)
AX023 La Esclava de Minelva – Vol. 3 (The Fencer of Minelva)
AX024 La Esclava de Minelva – Vol. 4 (The Fencer of Minelva)
AX025 Escuela de Verano – 1ª Parte
AX026 La Esclava de Minelva – Vol. 5 (The Fencer of Minelva)
AX027 Escuela de Verano – 2ª Parte
AX028 Escuela de Verano 2
AX029 Escuela de Verano 3
AX030 Noches de Luna
AX031 Escuela de Verano – Final
AX032 Mágico Anochecer

C2021 El Angel de la Oscuridad – Volumen 1
C2022 Unas Gemelas Muy Especiales
C2023 El Angel de la Oscuridad – Volumen 2
C2024 Amigas para Todo
C2025 El Angel de la Oscuridad – Volumen 3
C2026 Juegos de Enfermeras
C2027 El Angel de la Oscuridad – Volumen 4
C2028 Shiho – La Chica Mágica
C2073 Inocencia Perdida
C2074 Amiga y Maestra
C2075 Deseo Cumplido
C2076 Deseo Cumplido 2
C2083 Inocencia Perdida 2
C2159 Acoso en el Instituto
C2160 Acoso en el Instituto 2

Source
http://www.animecion.com/listado-de-ediciones/anime/vhs-listado-de-anime-editado-en-espana/
 

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Yo! I'm back for good (and for bad thanks to all the spammers). :grassdance:

About the last posts:

- Twin Dolls has never been reported to have edits/cuts. It was released by a different company (Softcel/ADV Films) than Twin Angels (Anime18/CPM). Plus with the recent DVD release, you have everything you need.

- Dragon Pink 2 DOES NOT EXIST UNCENSORED. The mosaics have been DRAWN on cels. Look carefully, it's not the usual filter superimposed on normal drawings. The french DVD release is censored. I cannot say about VHS rips, but most likely it is the case too.

Two files are wrongly assigned uncensored on anidb: one french DVDrip of the complete series (as ep 1/3 are uncensored), and a file from World-of-Hentai. :thief:
 

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Take notice that [lamonae] has posted the complete Yuuwaku Countdown series on Nyaa and Tokyotosho. For the first time enjoy the second episode with english subs. :cheer:

I was not even involved in the process (except posting the torrent). :joker:
 

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can someone post some pictures from the cut version of fencer of mienrva 1? i'm curious as it said some panshots were cut earlier so wanted to see the difference without buying the dvd straight away for caps
 

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Episode 1 has few cuts in the scene when Diana (the titular heroine) is aroused in the nomads camp, the shots of fingers rubbing Diana's insides (which you don't really see anyway) are removed. In total there are 6-7 seconds missing. Not much, but for me it is really annoying. All cuts are exactly like in the screenshot attached, from the french DVDrip (which has no japanese dub unfortunatly).

In general the series is not explicit enough to suffer other cuts. It got a 17+ certificate in USA for a good reason.
 

Takashiro

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ah so its just those shots? i was told that some of the external panshots cut before panning down past certain 'areas' but if not thanks for saving me a dvd purchase =)
 

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