JULIA: fans or foes

To that end (!) the reason I don't like JULIA is basically she doesn't look all that Japanese and always HAS looked like a western "asian" model to me. It loses the exoticness for me, as bad as that might sound.
Lol now we know which end of the dog you sniff at.

Well thats what I mean her face could be a limiting factor. She gain some fans in certain fringe markets but lose more in the primary domestic market.

Perhaps her face and hair is too glamourous and intimidating for a lot of domestic customers . But I like the glamour, or better wording might be fabulous . Perhaps to be top ranking, an idol need to have a very broad and generic appeal.

Why is everyone either aggressive or apologetic? Can't we learn to talk normal about sex and race?
 
Haha you already made your preference obvious. Well I will say that I care more about the back end. JULIA's ass is often overlooked by fans and directors, but it's a very high quality ass. I don't know if it's the best ass in JAV, but one of the best.

So yeah given the right condition (after a shower) I would definitely stick my nose in her butt.
 
Haha you already made your preference obvious. Well I will say that I care more about the back end. JULIA's ass is often overlooked by fans and directors, but it's a very high quality ass. I don't know if it's the best ass in JAV, but one of the best.

So yeah given the right condition (after a shower) I would definitely stick my nose in her butt.
I certainly wouldn' kick her out of bed. She just looks too vanilla for me. But she is very pretty.
 
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So MIDE-495 finally finally dropped. Normally I don't pay any attention to vids before release. But this one... eh... I chanced upon the cover and was fed the wrong release date (early by a whole month) so I was really losing my cool waiting for the drop... FINALLY
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So I think I was right to call it a continuation (but crossed from SOD to Moodyz) of the series. And there was some "upgrade" and a slight different treatment due to change of director/producer.

The "upgrade" is a more melodramatic backstory. JULIA is a one-woman business now (owner and janitor), after a too-brief intro showing Julia in very skimpy outfit cleaning the bathhouse (in Aimi's version, the cleaning scene was longer and excellent warm-up for fapping) we see Julia frowning over the accounting book. Then she went over to a shrine of a man, either her late father or (much more likely) late husband. She makes a little prayer, I guess something along the line, "I promise to take care of this business which is the most precious important thing you left me".

Then she chance upon an old book in the corridor with the title "History of Sento (bathhouse) ~ Book of Tiger", in it she read that in the Edo period, some Sento offers "direct" or "indirect" something something enhanced service to bathers. So that's it, she will revive the old traditions to turn the business around from failure!

I do appreciate these set-ups scenes, despite it doesn't directly contribute to fapping. A little frown, small gestures and dialog consisting of sentences and multi-syllable words. Notice she's wearing very casual and very little. Thin see-thru t-shirt and hot hot pants at home is common enough. But she even unbuttons and pull the zipper 1/4 way down, showing just a tiny bit of panty. It is fappable? Totally not. Well ok not totally, but it's at best 5% fappable (and my nuts were ready to burst from waiting a month for this vid). Still the director/idol going out of his way to add a little extra exposure, a little eye candy. I do appreciate it.

A hand-written sign saying "New Service - 1000 Yens" is posted, the first customer who tries it is now the first sex scene. The idea is that Julia didn't start out to convert a family friendly (in real world, bathhouse are clean businesses) establishment to a whorehouse. So she was figuring it out starting modest and with new transactions (each sex scene) gradually upgrade her services (and income). I get a huge kick it costs only 1000 Yens (barely more than a happy meal) for what turns out to be a awesome washing and handjob. Unfortunately the director wants to establish this escalating plotline chose to make Julia wears way-too-much cloths for this scene. No tits, ass, no blowjob. Disappointing.

The following scenes finally we get some good fappable scenes. I just want to highlight the interesting bits. The charm of the series isn't in hardcore sex, the title (and the setup scenes) advertise three (or more) different levels of service, so obviously some customers will only pay for a cheaper service, titfuck or blowjob. So some scenes you don't get the full service. That's a small negative for sure. But the point is to emulate a real world business. So one thing I got a huge kick out of, is seen in the third pic above. Customers are just discovering the new offerings and saw one such service (a blow job) being provided. So she interrupt her sucking to explain the new service. I always enjoy that... talking scenes with some nudity and sex. And customers and Julia discuss or negotiate the terms of transaction. E.g. a customer requesting, and Julia hesitated then agreed to, take off her last piece of garment (panty) to give the customer a wash.

I also dug into the title and text a little, and got myself some geeky enjoyment. E.g. I think I figured out the phrase "秘壺おちんぽ清浄" the third (top price point) service being offer: "washing of penis using a secret vase". What is the secret vase???
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An awesome awesome vid, compare to the all-sex vids of hers in last 2 years.
 
She would be insanely hot if she took more interest in the guys fucking her. When they cum she just lies there and barely moves, like "oh, it's over..."
 
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She would be insanely hot if she took more interest in the guys fucking her. When they cum she just lies there and barely moves, like "oh, it's over..."
Preach. Her body is banging and she is pretty good looking. But her performance just does not cut it for me. Not only is she extremely vanilla, every scene looks like she is just there to show up for work and collect her check.

I really tried to like her and have tried multiple times since she always looks so good on the covers. But I just can't get into her.
 
Love her, and loved the new release. I don't disagree with others about her performance sometimes, but I find it above average still. My taste is fairly vanilla though by American standards, which puts me at very vanilla in JAV.
 
My taste is fairly vanilla though by American standards, which puts me at very vanilla in JAV.

Haha yeah, I can see taste being a big factor. Western stuff is just way too unoriginal for me so maybe I'm just too much of a degenerate to enjoy Julia.
 
Vanilla by US standards, do you mean like gonzo from studios such as Brazzers ? Or studios like X-art ?
Not a fan of anal, piss/scat, trans, r*** fantasy, etc. I think my dream porn basically starts off with a bunch of girls in yoga pants or lingerie and that's about it.
 
Most people would disagree with you if you imply that US standard is generally more vanilla than JAV.

Anal is far more common in US/EU. Scat and trans is quite fringe in JAV just as anywhere else. r*** is indeed unique in JAV. But also you will hear many people say that vanilla JAV sex scenes are more normal and natural than vanilla US sex scenes. There is a huge variety of non-vanilla stuffs in JAV, but also (except for the damnable mosaic) JAV vanilla is probably more vanilla than US vanilla.

JAV fans think that US sex scenes are too fake and contrived. US fans think that JAV (and EU) porn are too boring and "lack heat".

Anyway... how it relates to Julia? Well ok @DavidLu714 brings up a good point that vanilla idols do enjoy a good market share, but perhaps on forums (online in general) the vanilla fans may be underrepresented. The other thing is: vanilla or not, Julia as a hottie is way up there if she were in the US porn industry. Ok I don't really know the US/EU scenes any more, but my impression is that there are fewer hotties than 10-20 years ago, and the top 20 hotties from JAV should easily blow the top-5 hotties from US porn out of the water.

I have downloaded about 5 vids from Brazzer and X-art in the past year. Some of them are decent looking (the average are plain and simple UGLY), but no one left me an impression as hottie.
 
Most people would disagree with you if you imply that US standard is generally more vanilla than JAV.

The other thing is: vanilla or not, Julia as a hottie is way up there if she were in the US porn industry
. Ok I don't really know the US/EU scenes any more, but my impression is that there are fewer hotties than 10-20 years ago, and the top 20 hotties from JAV should easily blow the top-5 hotties from US porn out of the water.

I have downloaded about 5 vids from Brazzer and X-art in the past year. Some of them are decent looking (the average are plain and simple UGLY), but no one left me an impression as hottie.


so as someone intertwined with american porn, I can't agree with this I couldn't really even put her in the top 5 asians currently if she was in the US, also you've viewed a very small sample size of work in the past year. I'll just say Julia in the US probably doesnt make a dent in the industry, she's not a good performer and doesn't do anal/dp.

US is not more vanilla, if you want to be a star over here you have to be a dirty girl since the demand isn't vanilla, and vanilla girls don't win awards or make the money
 
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I'll just say Julia in the US probably doesnt make a dent in the industry, she's not a good performer and doesn't do anal/dp.
Oh absolutely. She and most JAV idols won't survive in the US industry. Also I won't debate you she's top 5 hottie in JAV. I do love her, but her face is definitely not in top-5 or top-10.

I AM saying she's pretty competitive if you ignore the "performance" factor. She has big tits, and generally excellent figures (waist, hip, butt, legs, even her neck, shoulders and arms and hands are pleasing to the eyes). Her skin condition is pretty good for her age, and compared against typical US porn stars, her skin condition are off the charts. Her face is so-so compared to the S-class idols in JAV, but in US she ought to be quite competitive. Her big wavy hair also is more exciting (for global audience) than average Asian.

What I am really saying... once in a while, I went back to look for something good in the US/EU scene (tired of mosaic) but always spend too much time looking at unattractive covers and when I finally pick one to download, the chance that I will achieve "lift-off" is less than 30%. The rest of the time, I went back to JAV. A big factor is... vanilla is acceptable, but un-hot girls in sex scene is just unable to get my rocket fired up.

15 years ago I mostly consumed Europorn, mostly Private, some Marc Dorcel. They do get kinda repetitive. But compared to Julia/Rion/Yua/Shoko, Europorn are un-vanilla enough. The main thing is that Private got a lot of East European hotties, at least for a few years. Also I outgrew US-idea of "heat" in sex scenes a long long time ago.

The most recent US porn star that gave me a deep impression was Sasha Grey, that's how long ago... And yes she's a great performer and has a distinct personality/persona but purely as a hottie she's only good, not great.

So if you could recommend a real hottie, great looker, any race, from the US/EU scene, I would love to check them out.
 
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Most people would disagree with you if you imply that US standard is generally more vanilla than JAV.

Hmm I can see where you are coming from. I guess what I mean when I say western porn is "too vanilla" I mean the premise of the scenes more so than the actual sex acts themselves. Western porn usually has no plot whatsoever, and even when there is its the usual tropes. JAV has tropes as well but it is much more varied in my experience. The emphasis on acting also plays a part for me. Western, or rather US porn, the girls seem to act the same way no matter the premise of the scene, leading them to look and feel the same.

Also I'm not sure I agree that US porn is generally less vanilla even straightly speaking about the sex acts involved. I mean, in JAV mass gokkun and bukkake is pretty common. Cum on food is a thing. Massage salon voyeurism. Drug induced trance sex. The amount of non-conventional porn in JAV is huge. While in my experience Western porn is much less varied. I could be wrong, maybe they can be found in the indie porn scene but that's a whole other discussion.

As for how is this related to Julia. I guess her repertoire is just too limited for me.
 
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Hmm I can see where you are coming from. I guess what I mean when I say western porn is "too vanilla" I mean the premise of the scenes more so than the actual sex acts themselves. Western porn usually has no plot whatsoever, and even when there is its the usual tropes. JAV has tropes as well but it is much more varied in my experience. The emphasis on acting also plays a part for me. Western, or rather US porn, the girls seem to act the same way no matter the premise of the scene, leading them to look and feel the same.

Also I'm not sure I agree that US porn is generally less vanilla even straightly speaking about the sex acts involved. I mean, in JAV mass gokkun and bukkake is pretty common. Cum on food is a thing. Massage salon voyeurism. Drug induced trance sex. The amount of non-conventional porn in JAV is huge. While in my experience Western porn is much less varied. I could be wrong, maybe they can be found in the indie porn scene but that's a whole other discussion.

As for how is this related to Julia. I guess her repertoire is just too limited for me.
There are those genres in American porn, but usually not under the major studios and doesn't feature a lot of mainstream pornstars. There are some that don't amwf in Japan or in L.A with Japanese guys, but there are a lot that doesn't know because they hide it from their American fans. There are certain a lot of niches hidden featuring odd actors of different sizes, "plot", etc.
 
Oh absolutely. She and most JAV idols won't survive in the US industry. Also I won't debate you she's top 5 hottie in JAV. I do love her, but her face is definitely not in top-5 or top-10.

I AM saying she's pretty competitive if you ignore the "performance" factor. She has big tits, and generally excellent figures (waist, hip, butt, legs, even her neck, shoulders and arms and hands are pleasing to the eyes). Her skin condition is pretty good for her age, and compared against typical US porn stars, her skin condition are off the charts. Her face is so-so compared to the S-class idols in JAV, but in US she ought to be quite competitive. Her big wavy hair also is more exciting (for global audience) than average Asian.

The most recent US porn star that gave me a deep impression was Sasha Grey, that's how long ago... And yes she's a great performer and has a distinct personality/persona but purely as a hottie she's only good, not great.

So if you could recommend a real hottie, great looker, any race, from the US/EU scene, I would love to check them out.

I really don't think she would be competitive in the US, her tits aren't really that big compared to US markeet she's just average size, and her face would probably turn most people off, like you can have a face like hers in the US industry but you gotta back it up in the bedroom, and she can't.

You see it's kind of tough to recommend a hottie because our taste are pretty different, and my US taste are waaay different then my Jav ones. but i Can try

Eva Lovia, Romi Rain, Janice Griffin, Peta Jensen, The Plastic Sex Doll Madison Ivy(you gotta have your sex doll who's a fairly solid performer), and The recently deceased August Ames
none of them are vanilla, besides Madison so i don't know if you'd like them.

Hmm I can see where you are coming from. I guess what I mean when I say western porn is "too vanilla" I mean the premise of the scenes more so than the actual sex acts themselves. Western porn usually has no plot whatsoever, and even when there is its the usual tropes. JAV has tropes as well but it is much more varied in my experience. The emphasis on acting also plays a part for me. Western, or rather US porn, the girls seem to act the same way no matter the premise of the scene, leading them to look and feel the same.

Also I'm not sure I agree that US porn is generally less vanilla even straightly speaking about the sex acts involved. I mean, in JAV mass gokkun and bukkake is pretty common. Cum on food is a thing. Massage salon voyeurism. Drug induced trance sex. The amount of non-conventional porn in JAV is huge. While in my experience Western porn is much less varied. I could be wrong, maybe they can be found in the indie porn scene but that's a whole other discussion.

As for how is this related to Julia. I guess her repertoire is just too limited for me.
Western Porn, and JAV follow two different formulas, Western porn is more scene based, while JAV is movie based. The Money in the US comes from subscriptions, and the release of individual scenes while in JAV it's movie sales. The biggest US studio there's plot in almost all there scenes, but how much do you really want to cram into a 30 minute scene? The tropes in both, I don't really find either very varied they both have the same amount of tropes they follow to a tee.

US is less Vanilla, they do all that stuff Jules Jordan, Evil Angel, and Kink do gokkun, bukkake type stuff. A lot of sites have massage themed stuff, and Anal/DP/IR is also very big, and you could probably find cum on food(and really anything) on Clips4Sale(which is indiesh) which is pretty big these days. The only thing JAV really does that the US big companies can't do is r***, and puke themes, but that's because legal reasons, and credit card companies threatening them, but Clips4Sale, and Kink still do them a bit. You can literally find everything, and more in the US mainstream industry.

There are those genres in American porn, but usually not under the major studios and doesn't feature a lot of mainstream pornstars. There are some that don't amwf in Japan or in L.A with Japanese guys, but there are a lot that doesn't know because they hide it from their American fans. There are certain a lot of niches hidden featuring odd actors of different sizes, "plot", etc.

They don't really hide AMWF, just a lot of them aren't really in the know when the stuff gets released, Like US girls market the shit out of everything they do
 
I'm not into that neither. I almost forgot that Digital Playground produce full movies with a story and I have seen some of them before (and some scenes from those movies with Jessica Drake) and they are softer than US gonzo (Brazzers, Naughty America, BangBros, ...). But overall, US has more gonzo than JAV, so JAV us more vanilla (the best seller girls are those who do vanilla).

By the way, nice porn dream ;) Mine is similar, just some girls for a harem.
The transition between the story and the sex is so stereotypical slapstick comedy. They did try bang bus fans pickup, which is literally paying and testing an amateur before casting him as a regular guy on the street.
 
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I have to agree with several who have posted here. Julia is beautiful. She has an amazing body. BUT when it comes to her acting, she is wooden. She just closes her eyes and moans, says a couple of words, but doesn't really behave/act as the situation demands.

She has gotten better over the last year or 18 months but if you compare her to some other actresses, Kawakami Nanami, Yuna Shina, Meguri, Hatano Yui, and a few more, she doesn't really "stack-up" as a good actress.

For me the part that makes JAV so enjoyable is the story and how the people react/act to the situation they are in. But everyone, I'm sure, would admit that the story/movie is way better if the actor/actress actually puts some passion/fire/feeling into the role to make the story come alive. As beautiful as Julia is, and she is absolutely stunning, she does not bring that to the story. Watch her stuff she hardly raises her voice, more recently she has put a bit more into it, but so far, the first half of her credits, nothing.

As for American, and for that matter European, porn, just doesn't do it for me. There used to be great porn from the US way back, Green Door, The Taboo series, and many more. At least they had great stories, and the people in them actually did try to behave as you would in the given situations. But now-a-days it's all gonzo, or get-together-no-real-story-fuck-leave, or the same story line is done over and over again by the same people (they don't even move to different locations) (Re. REDMilf). The Europeans aren't much better. The Italians try, every-now-and-then and do a somewhat decent job, but most of the stuff from Europe is the same gonzo style that came over from America. Don't even talk to me about the stuff from Russia.

After that rant, don't get me wrong, I will watch the stuff that features Julia, but so often it is the same acting, and near zero story line, and, I'm sorry to say, boring.
 
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She has absolutely no connection to the guy making love to her, no connection to his orgasm when he cums inside her. At most she might fein some sluttyness, but even then it doesn't really convince.

Just once I'd like to see her holding the guy, looking him in the eyes, feeling his orgam and kissing him. No rush to withdraw, nice and deep ejaculation as she enjoys his hardness and the intense connection between them.
 
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