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DScott

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I seem to be annoying as heck with my constant observations TmpGuy and I apologize for that. This is yet another... request. I realize that my particular application may be outside the norm and therefore not worth consideration. That said, several iterations ago someone had been unhappy with JavLuv deleting the original cover file when it added it to JavLuv's database. For me that is the preferable thing because what the heck do I need a bunch of cover files for once they are incorporated into the database? For me it is a bunch of junk that I now have to go back and delete. I'm especially finding this a pain. So, I looked through the configs and did not see an option to automatically remove the extraneous files. I thought about reverting back to an earlier iteration but the newer version is SOOO much better at finding data. Ultimately this is a very minor issue but if there is a way to add to database and delete the original at the same time I would like to know. No need to respond, if there's a solution, kewl, if not, I'll just sit her whining like a little baby.... like usual.. Cheers.
 

TmpGuy

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I seem to be annoying as heck with my constant observations TmpGuy and I apologize for that. This is yet another... request. I realize that my particular application may be outside the norm and therefore not worth consideration. That said, several iterations ago someone had been unhappy with JavLuv deleting the original cover file when it added it to JavLuv's database. For me that is the preferable thing because what the heck do I need a bunch of cover files for once they are incorporated into the database? For me it is a bunch of junk that I now have to go back and delete. I'm especially finding this a pain. So, I looked through the configs and did not see an option to automatically remove the extraneous files. I thought about reverting back to an earlier iteration but the newer version is SOOO much better at finding data. Ultimately this is a very minor issue but if there is a way to add to database and delete the original at the same time I would like to know. No need to respond, if there's a solution, kewl, if not, I'll just sit her whining like a little baby.... like usual.. Cheers.
Don't worry - I don't take offense at suggestions for JavLuv, as long as people are civil and understand this is a hobby project. If there's a reason for a design decision, I feel should be able to justify it.

I'll be honest, most often, I also prefer deleting the cover as part of the cover import operation as well, which is why that originally worked like that. Why did I change it (besides the request)? There were several reasons:

The first reason is sometimes called "the principle of least astonishment" in software design. Software should generally work as you'd expect it to without any initial instruction. In typical Windows programs, if you select File | Import, you don't expect the program to delete a file you've just imported. That is, it's typically a non-destructive operation. So I thought, at least by default, JavLuv should operate the same way.

The second reason was that not all import operations worked the same way. Importing an actress cover image didn't delete the original file. It's bad design to be inconsistent with such operations.

The third reason is that I try to be very careful with destructive operations in JavLuv. You'll notice most of them are locked behind non-default advanced options and/or give warnings to the user ahead of time. The original design did not do that.

In general, I try to avoid adding too many frivolous options, as each option added means more work for me maintaining the program and testing each release. I think I'd be amenable to adding an option to delete the source material on import, but I'd prefer it worked consistently across all import operations. The other solution would probably be to add an "Import and delete source" command.

Wow, this got long-winded. Anyhow, let me know what you guys think, and I'll give it some thought as well.
 
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DScott

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Don't worry - I don't take offense at suggestions for JavLuv, as long as people are civil and understand this is a hobby project. If there's a reason for a design decision, I feel should be able to justify it.

I'll be honest, most often, I also prefer deleting the cover as part of the cover import operation as well, which is why that originally worked like that. Why did I change it (besides the request)? There were several reasons:

The first reason is sometimes called "the principle of least astonishment" in software design. Software should generally work as you'd expect it to without any initial instruction. In typical Windows programs, if you select File | Import, you don't expect the program to delete a file you've just imported. That is, it's typically a non-destructive operation. So I thought, at least by default, JavLuv should operate the same way.

The second reason was that not all import operations worked the same way. Importing an actress cover image didn't delete the original file. It's bad design to be inconsistent with such operations.

The third reason is that I try to be very careful with destructive operations in JavLuv. You'll notice most of them are locked behind non-default advanced options and/or give warnings to the user ahead of time. The original design did not do that.

In general, I try to avoid adding too many frivolous options, as each option added means more work for me maintaining the program and testing each release. I think I'd be amenable to adding an option to delete the source material on import, but I'd prefer it worked consistently across all import operations. The other solution would probably be to add an "Import and delete source" command.

Wow, this got long-winded. Anyhow, let me know what you guys think, and I'll give it some thought as well.
I know all about long-winded amigo. Here is where this issue is a inconvenience. I have started to try to manually add some of my larger series` folders that Javluv doesn't scrape like Caribbean.com or Fc2... So, when you're in Javluv and you manually add a cover file the program first looks in the directory that the file is in. If I do a mass thumbnail creation of all of those files I will now have corresponding image files for each video file, Great for a start. Now comes the slightly tricky bit, when I import the image into Javluv I will now have dupes of each of those image files in the folder... i hate dupes... Btw your program is great for finding dupes. I use Duplicate Cleaner Pro to find Video Dupes..... Waiiiit a minute, I just had a eureka moment, Duplicate Cleaner also cleans images,.,,, DOH!!!! So now I have to remove all of the image dupes..... Big pain! Alternative is to create the original thumbs elsewhere which cures the dupe problem in the main directory but when adding the thumb to javluv I now have to navigate to the correct folder where I saved the thumbs and I have to do that for every file because each time you add a cover the program defaults to the original directory. I'm sure you've considered all of this. Ultimately this probably would not bother most users but when you have over 800 Caribbean.com files this process is mighty cumbersom. On the other side of that coin it is not the end of the world and I can certainly live with the inconvenience. I've been using your program for several months now and I still kind of giggle about what a great program it is.. Well Wow, that realization of my Dupe program being able to remove dupes is probably the solution. I can just creat the thumbs in the original directory, import them into JavLuv and then use my program to remove the dupes... Ummmm I'll post this anyway as foood for thought but I think that I can work with this.. Cheers.
 

DScott

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Actresses are notoriously difficult for JavLuv to manage, due to the nature of the Japanese language, and how there isn't really an exact English name for a given Japanese name. Add to this the issue that actresses sometimes change names throughout their careers (some have many aliases), two possible name orderings, and the problem grows even more tricky. Hibiki Otsuki is my favorite example, as there are no less than three valid ways to spell "Otsuki".

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I attempt to alleviate this with fuzzy algorithms that employ a "closest match" in case of minor spelling differences, but I didn't want to introduce too many false positives. It works most of the time, but does sometimes require manual intervention.

If there's a name with no corresponding database entry, JavLuv will create one, or else it ends up having issues. If you delete it, it will just be recreated later. So, merging it is the correct answer, as this will also merge names such that the alternate name is preserved.

In theory, JavLuv should have dealt with name order, so long as the websites scraped from display the name consistently. So I'm not sure why that's occurring.
Something that I've noticed, maybe this has already been discussed, but if you manually enter the actress name, first/last or last/first the program is more effective if you make sure to capitalize both first and last name.
 

TmpGuy

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Something that I've noticed, maybe this has already been discussed, but if you manually enter the actress name, first/last or last/first the program is more effective if you make sure to capitalize both first and last name.
Manually enter the name where? And the program is more effective at doing what?
 

DScott

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Manually enter the name where? And the program is more effective at doing what?
I always thought that I was verbose in order to make sure that I covered all ground. Apparantly not. In the Movie Details page for a given title you can manually enter an actress or multiple actress names. I have found a lot of peculiarities with this section because sometimes the actress list will show a thumbnail of the actress. Sometimes not though even though if you doubleclick on the little icon that contains the name in text it will bring up a face shot so for some reason the program only seems to correlate the thumb with the face shot some of the time. I have experimented trying to understand this and sometimes if you put the actress name in Western order First (English) name First and Last (English Name) Last IE Nanami Nanase and not Nanase Nanami. However even this doesn't always work so I have tried to find other solutions. YOu mentioned some of the compexities with various permutations of names and nomenclature so I was trying to find a solution to the manually entered names and the resulting thumbnail list rather than a text list under the actress name section. One partial solution , which is what I was alluding to , is that if you enter nanami nanase or nanase nanami neither will result in a thumb being shown in the list unless the First and Last names are capitalized. This does not always work btw but it is a partial solution. Ultimately these issues are insignificant but I prefer to have the image list of actresses rather than the text list. Here is another example. Kudo Lala is sometimes named Kudo Rara, Lara Kudo, Lara Kudou, Rara Kudou, Ran Kudo, Lala Kudou . if the scraped database has named her anything but "Kudo Lala" Nothing else will show that thumbnail but if you try to manually enter the correct spelling sometimes it will link to the thumbnail and sometimes not. In some cases Using capitals has helped but not always. In any case, like I already said, these are trivial issues but since I've begun doing a lot of data-entry for various scraping issues I thought that someone else doing this would want to know about making sure that the names were capitalized.. Cheers.
 

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I always thought that I was verbose in order to make sure that I covered all ground. Apparantly not. In the Movie Details page for a given title you can manually enter an actress or multiple actress names. I have found a lot of peculiarities with this section because sometimes the actress list will show a thumbnail of the actress. Sometimes not though even though if you doubleclick on the little icon that contains the name in text it will bring up a face shot so for some reason the program only seems to correlate the thumb with the face shot some of the time. I have experimented trying to understand this and sometimes if you put the actress name in Western order First (English) name First and Last (English Name) Last IE Nanami Nanase and not Nanase Nanami. However even this doesn't always work so I have tried to find other solutions. YOu mentioned some of the compexities with various permutations of names and nomenclature so I was trying to find a solution to the manually entered names and the resulting thumbnail list rather than a text list under the actress name section. One partial solution , which is what I was alluding to , is that if you enter nanami nanase or nanase nanami neither will result in a thumb being shown in the list unless the First and Last names are capitalized. This does not always work btw but it is a partial solution. Ultimately these issues are insignificant but I prefer to have the image list of actresses rather than the text list. Here is another example. Kudo Lala is sometimes named Kudo Rara, Lara Kudo, Lara Kudou, Rara Kudou, Ran Kudo, Lala Kudou . if the scraped database has named her anything but "Kudo Lala" Nothing else will show that thumbnail but if you try to manually enter the correct spelling sometimes it will link to the thumbnail and sometimes not. In some cases Using capitals has helped but not always. In any case, like I already said, these are trivial issues but since I've begun doing a lot of data-entry for various scraping issues I thought that someone else doing this would want to know about making sure that the names were capitalized.. Cheers.
From my experience using JavLuv, I think this has been solved by TmpGuy using the feature of "alternate names" in the actress detail view. You can insert all the different name of the actresses, and JavLuv will find the corelation with those name. I often use this quite often if I found some different actress names. Maybe you can also create the decapitalize name in that field also.
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From my experience using JavLuv, I think this has been solved by TmpGuy using the feature of "alternate names" in the actress detail view. You can insert all the different name of the actresses, and JavLuv will find the corelation with those name. I often use this quite often if I found some different actress names. Maybe you can also create the decapitalize name in that field also.
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You know what Lock_On? I have probably looked at that "Alternate Name" option Hundreds of times, and although I looked at it I never saw it.. Dang. Thanks a bunch. I'll start using that option.. Many thanks..
 
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TmpGuy

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hi it is possible to have different instances Javluv linked to different databases it so how to do it ?
No, not really, sorry. JavLuv assumes you're managing a single global database.

Technically, that's because all the program settings are stored in a pre-determined location, like C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\JavLuv. You can actually swap these settings out by swapping out folders (I do this for testing sometimes), but it's not something I really recommend in most cases.

Can I ask why you want different databases? It sometimes helps to understand the specific use case.
 

makaroni1

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No, not really, sorry. JavLuv assumes you're managing a single global database.

Technically, that's because all the program settings are stored in a pre-determined location, like C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\JavLuv. You can actually swap these settings out by swapping out folders (I do this for testing sometimes), but it's not something I really recommend in most cases.

Can I ask why you want different databases? It sometimes helps to understand the specific use case.
thank you for this info my DB is unmanageable just too big at this point I'll try swapping folders
 

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is it possible to use my pc stationary to keep the base folders of my movies and install javluv on a laptop over LAN and see the movies pulling over the lan to the laptop from my stationary ?
 

weppin

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Hi, back again. So I've been working on filling in the blanks in the actress profile pics, and one of my ideas came back to me.

Something I would like - it's really just an indulgence, not a make or break issue - would be to have multiple, switchable profile pics available.

I always struggle with choosing just the right profile pic - one that really captures the essence of the actress, and most importantly gives me instant, on-sight familiarity, as I'm perusing through the titles.

Lately I tend to pick a crop from a cover of a film that I know well, and tend to immediately identify strongly with an actress.

However, in the beginning, I had this really dirty penchant for having each profile pic be a screenshot of each actress as nude as possible - waist up boobs at least, full body if possible. If none of that was available, I'd settle for as sexy and/or revealing a costume or pose as I could find. Having a wall of topless beauties, sorted in a favorite order, was really something hot to see.

So finally, the thought occurred to me, what I *really* want is BOTH of those pics!

Would it be possible to make the profile pic a "clickable" image, or some sort of thing? So it could switch from one image to another? This could either be per-actress switch (preferable), or all of them at once, if it had to be.

Your thoughts?
 

TmpGuy

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thank you for this info my DB is unmanageable just too big at this point I'll try swapping folders

Not to belabor a point, but how many are we talking here? I've got over 5K movies, and I don't find it too hard to manage. Is there anything in particular that the program could do better to help manage things? Just curious.
 
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TmpGuy

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Hi, back again. So I've been working on filling in the blanks in the actress profile pics, and one of my ideas came back to me.

Something I would like - it's really just an indulgence, not a make or break issue - would be to have multiple, switchable profile pics available.

I always struggle with choosing just the right profile pic - one that really captures the essence of the actress, and most importantly gives me instant, on-sight familiarity, as I'm perusing through the titles.

Lately I tend to pick a crop from a cover of a film that I know well, and tend to immediately identify strongly with an actress.

However, in the beginning, I had this really dirty penchant for having each profile pic be a screenshot of each actress as nude as possible - waist up boobs at least, full body if possible. If none of that was available, I'd settle for as sexy and/or revealing a costume or pose as I could find. Having a wall of topless beauties, sorted in a favorite order, was really something hot to see.

So finally, the thought occurred to me, what I *really* want is BOTH of those pics!

Would it be possible to make the profile pic a "clickable" image, or some sort of thing? So it could switch from one image to another? This could either be per-actress switch (preferable), or all of them at once, if it had to be.

Your thoughts?

You can already add as many actress images as you like. With multiple images, you can hover over the actress image on the left and right edges of the images and click to cycle through them. All thumbnail images will then use that image. Right-click to manage the images.
 
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is it possible to use my pc stationary to keep the base folders of my movies and install javluv on a laptop over LAN and see the movies pulling over the lan to the laptop from my stationary ?

There isn't a great way to do this. You can sort of fake it by making sure the settings folders are synced, but it's not really officially advised or supported. It's on the to-do task list, as it makes a lot of sense to be able to access the DB from multiple computers.
 
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weppin

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You can already add as many actress images as you like. With multiple images, you can hover over the actress image on the left and right edges of the images and click to cycle through them. All thumbnail images will then use that image. Right-click to manage the images.
OMG that is so amazing! Thank you! Quickest feature request granted ever!

So follow up question, how to import images per actress, then? It seems I have a big cache of images on a networked computer that I copied over from an earlier install of JavLuv, that seem to have gone missing on my original primary server computer. I'd like to reimport those, but I wouldn't want to overwrite any that I've added in the meantime. Is there a way to do this in bulk, or just I add them in via the program one at a time? Thanks again.
 

TmpGuy

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OMG that is so amazing! Thank you! Quickest feature request granted ever!

So follow up question, how to import images per actress, then? It seems I have a big cache of images on a networked computer that I copied over from an earlier install of JavLuv, that seem to have gone missing on my original primary server computer. I'd like to reimport those, but I wouldn't want to overwrite any that I've added in the meantime. Is there a way to do this in bulk, or just I add them in via the program one at a time? Thanks again.

Actress images are assigned a random ID as it's filename, so if the associated local XML file is lost, there
is really no way to recover them. So unfortunately, you'd need to identify them visually and import them one at a time.

At some point, I'd like to add functionality to export and import all metadata in a more portable way. That would be useful for backups, as well as providing a way of exchanging data with others.
 
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makaroni1

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Not to belabor a point, but how many are we talking here? I've got over 5K movies, and I don't find it too hard to manage. Is there anything in particular that the program could do better to help manage things? Just curious.
the one db is around 12k and there is another for 2k and there is anothher 2 HDD that I did not add to there yet :( so total in 20K I think
I think the big advancement would be a custom collection based on some used to define criteria such as genre, and series etc display it is a tab just as all movies and actresses would be the best
 

weppin

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the one db is around 12k and there is another for 2k and there is anothher 2 HDD that I did not add to there yet :( so total in 20K I think
I think the big advancement would be a custom collection based on some used to define criteria such as genre, and series etc display it is a tab just as all movies and actresses would be the best
I keep my JAV sorted in folders by genre of my own taste, so like "schoolgirl", "cuckold", "nurse", etc. Then I multiply those folders and qualify them with refinements, "cuckold - husband watching", "schoolgirl - teacher seduce", etc

Using JAVLUV, I can then search for folders (I think by using the "/" prefix?) for any of those folder names, and/or the modifiers.

By typing in "/schoolgirl" I see all my schoolgirl genre titles, same with "/nurse - handjob" etc. It works really well. Of course, this means I must constantly be making and adding to genre folders, which is a Herculean task. But, I look at it as part of the fun and hobby aspect of collecting JAV.

Hope this helps, good luck!